Posts by Mum

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Going Beyond the Things Written.

by integ in

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friends

i went to the meeting today.

i go probably once a month for various reasons i have alluded to here.. .

i don't know what the title of the talk was, since i pulled my usual come in 5 minutes late, muster a fake "i'm mildly embarrassed" look on my face and slip in the back row move, but the crux of it was to not go 'beyond the things written'.. .

Mum

They are ridiculous! They must want to show the pope what REAL ecclesiastical authority is. The worst thing you can do to a narcissist (from the narcissist's point of view) is to laugh at him/them. They take themselves soooo seriously that levity and humor are uber offensive. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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Is GOD really going to kill "apostates" from the Watchtower??

by DATA-DOG in

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friends

i was thinking about this lately.

also there was a comment made by an elder recently, saying that jehovah(tm) would kill elders who apostasized by not waiting for the "slave" to get things right.

how would you approach with an uber-dub?.

Mum

Just shut up and eat your poisoned "spiritual food!"

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JW's at my inlaw's door yesterday

by Hillary in

here in the northeast it is freezing.

a father and son team brought over the outside garbage cans from the end of the driveway and offered to salt my inlaws' driveway.

my f-i-l was very impressed and said they're very nice people.

Mum

What Blondie said. When I read this, the question came to my mind of whether those "nice" JW's would have done such a kind deed for one of their own. I was reprimanded more than once by my then elder husband for helping people when it was not for an ulterior motive.

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Was There ANYTHING The Watchtower Taught You That Benefited You?

by minimus in

besides learning how to speak publicly, has the watchtower given you any benefits?

?.

Mum

I learned that image is everything. Style trumps substance any time.

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B.O.E. 13/01/14

by LucidChimp in

"in minnesota, a man said to his visitors: "i saw you coming, so i went to get this book.

" he held up a bible teach book and said that when he was in prison, he stole the book.

when asked if he had read it, he replied that he was going to read it on the weekend while he was fishing.

Mum

Is this story from the Yearbook? It's weird. It would seem that he would have had enough time in prison to read it. It's heartening to know that the JW's have a place for criminals to go to for pie in the sky. I wish all JW children could be rescued, however.

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The yuk factor and others

by jgnat in

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friends

will you share with me an interesting discussion on what morals we all may have in common?

my recent reading has resulted in a fundamental shift in my worldview.

it feels like my house of cards have reshuffled themselves yet again, and everything i see, hear and smell is put in a new context.

Mum

It takes a while to get your moral priorities in order after leaving the JW's behind. Wrapping a Christmas gift or a birthday gift, even giving such a gift -- all are "wrong" to JW's. That is batsh*t crazy! Punishing a child for eating a cupcake at a school birthday or holiday party is bizarre beyond belief! I feel so sad for children who grow up this way, not understanding what really is hurtful and harmful and what is not. I now see all JW's a child abusers, unwitting or not. These same children are taught to be gleeful that 99.99% of the world's population is going to become bird food! Sick! The biggest "yuk" factor, of course, is that they protect pedophiles.

JW's have a distorted view of sexual immorality as well. It no longer causes even a blip on my radar screen if someone is gay or cohabitating with a member of the opposite sex. JW's will protect a child molestor but disfellowship a person for having sex ONE TIME!

The way JW's spy on one another and turn one another in to the elders is now a worse sin, in my view, that whatever the person may have done to get turned in - except when someone hurt someone else (e.g., child molestation).

Discouraging education and human development is one of the greatest sins of the Watchtower.

I need to stop thinking about all this!

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Link to the WT library of things that you wont find on the WT Library

by BU2B in

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friends

i just discovered a site today that has scans of most of the magazines/publications ever published by the wt bible and tract.

it is not an "apostate site" it just has the material and no commentary.

those of us trying to wake up jws may find this useful as we can show old quotes and publications without sending out red flags.. we are supposed to be proud of our spiritual heritge right??.

Mum

Thank you, BU2B. The truth is out there!

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NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

by sir82 in

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friends

here is the text of the letter:.

february 2, 2014. .

your brothers,.

Mum

All of these recommended "shepherding calls" may be seen by the GB as a way to force the hand of faders, i.e., to force them to write DA letters so the harassment will stop. They know faders don't want to play by their rules, so they're going to give those faders some incentive. It's best to move out of the area if you can.

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The kindness of (worldly) strangers

by moley in

yesterday i went surfing, when i had finished and got changed i tried to start my car, no joy.

there were about 12 cars in the car park and the occupants of 8 of the cars all tried to help out at some point as they could see i was having difficulties, one guy even drove to a garage 5 miles away to get me a coffee i didn't even ask for as it was a freezing cold day and a couple of them let me sit in their cars to warm up while i waited for the rac.

contrast this to a time when i was in and my car wouldn't start (different car lol) in a kh car park and all i got was snarky comments, or advice in passing but no one stopped to help out.. i know who i prefer, has anyone else been helped by the evil worldly's while ignored by the loving jw's.

Mum

I got "in trouble" with my elder husband twice for babysitting. Once I watched a sister's toddler so she could take her other preschooler to the dentist. Wrong! If she wasn't going out in service, I was not to babysit ever. The other occasion was when I babysat for our Bible study/student. I can't remember why. Anyway, her husband later complained about my husband's attitude.

After some time, I realized that I was not considered an adult, capable of deciding for myself when or how to be helpful. I also came to realize that I had been a better person before becoming a JW. The die was cast.

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...What do you Do,when People Ask You for Spare Change?...

by OUTLAW in

.. .........................some people are truly in need..some are not... a man passing by on his 10 speed bike,asked me for $2.00 for a cup of coffee... .................................................."uhhh,no"... ............another asked me for spare change outside a super market... ......................................i said i didn`t have any... ...................so he say`s "how about a credit card?!"......lol!!...

.. ....................what do you do,when people ask you for spare change?...

..... .. ..........................................whats the most outrageous thing... ......................................you`ve been asked forby a stranger?...

Mum

In Las Vegas I see beggars every time I go out. I keep cheese & crackers (the kind wrapped in cellophane) in my car to give them. I might give them a dollar or some change as well. I did see one beggar (from a parking lot) stop on the sidewalk, open his wallet and count his money. He was loaded!

I can't allow a few impostors keep me from helping someone who appears to be in dire need. A lot of them have really bad teeth, I've noticed.

Some years ago, Barbara Walters said it could save your life or well-being to give handouts. I keep that in mind, too.