awake!watcher, welcome to the forum!
I agree with Separation of Powers. Little dubs have to learn to deal with "opposition" and "persecution" for not eating a cupcake!
Posts by Mum
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21I'm Shocked The Jehovah's Witnesses Even Allow Their Kids To Go To Mainstream Schools.
by Jehovanomics injudging by the material that my kid brings home on a daily basis in copius amounts.
everything about everything in elementary school goes against the doctrines of the jehovah's witnesses.
how do jw's expect to make any money if all of their kids are defecting the jw's?
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The Hum Drum Lives of Jehovah's Witnesses
by minimus inboring and useless, a waste of valuable time..
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Mum
Being a JW limits one's opportunities to explore great art, great music, great literature, science and math. One is required to suppress his or her gifts and talents in order to conform and recruit new JW's.
Since I have left, I have read many books, including plenty of self-help books, have acquired a college degree, learned about various fields (e.g., law, medicine, engineering) through gainful employment. The world and all its horrors and delights are available to me. My daughter, born into a JW family, never (even as a small child) liked the dub "lifestyle."
When I first became a JW at age 15 (without anyone else in my family), it was a step up for me. I came from an uneducated, unmotivated family. My egg donor and sperm donor were abusive, physically and psychologically. I was very fond of the love bombing I got at the KH. I got to go to assemblies, which was so exciting to me because I had never stayed in a hotel at all or eaten out for days on end. I had always wanted to see other places, and being a JW gave me some opportunity on that front. To me, the dubs seemed very well educated and sophisticated, articulate and experienced. As time went on, of course, being a JW was stifling and limiting.
Je ne regrette rien. - Edith Piaf
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too nice and polite
by Phaedra inanyone finding themselves being labeled as "too nice" or "polite" after being a lifelong jw and integrating into the "new world" of realistic beings?.
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Mum
I don't think you have to be a JW to be "too nice." My grandparents were far too nice, but they wanted nothing to do with JW's, bless them! I consider myself almost "terminally" polite, but I'm working on a more confident, in-your-face attitude.
In fact, I'm pretty sure I was much nicer before I was a JW. I was brought up by my grandparents until age 11, and learned acceptance and tolerance as well as kindness and generosity, qualities that are not well received in the Watchtower world. In fact, this realization was one of the reasons I finally got out of the cult.
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What do you want for Christmas?
by Hortensia init's ok to share your xmas wishes here -- none of us is going to buy you anything, anyway!.
i have a list of books on my wishlist at amazon, some about critical thinking, some about knitting, some about yurok indian basketry.
i wouldn't mind getting any of those.
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Mum
I would like a nice grey peacoat like the one I recently gave to charity and now regret (somewhat, mixed feelings), a Red Lobster gift certificate, a long trip to Europe and, of course, world peace. I have so many books already, probably more than I can read in this lifetime. I still want more, so I also want more time for reading.
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Looking to Move in a few years?
by Still Totally ADD inmy wife and i are thinking about moving to central tn somewhere between crossville and cookeville.
maybe even as far west to lebanon or as far east to hariman.
things have changes so much for us in the last 6 months we would like to live were it is a little warmer with lots of wild herbs for my wife who is a herbalist and for me so i can garden more.
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Mum
Hi, STADD. Tennessee is an excellent choice, with some of the most beautiful scenery and kindest people anywhere. I am originally from Claiborne County, Tennessee, on the Kentucky (Bell County) and Virginia (Lee County) border. It is one of the most beautiful places in the U.S. There are several small towns there - Speedwell (my favorite for scenic beauty), Cumberland Gap (a village of fewer than 300 people), Harrogate (home of Lincoln Memorial University), Tazewell, and New Tazewell. The roads used to have lots of hairpin turns, but modern engineering makes driving easy these days. Cumberland Gap National Historical Park is there, too.
If you could visit the area and take a look around, you might fall in love with it!
Best wishes in your search!
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Has Anyone See The Giver, and If so, Do you Relate It to the Watch Tower?
by jamiebowers ini just watched it on dvd, and holy cow, i can see so many similarities to the watch tower!
i don't want to give anythng away for those who would like to see it, but i really wish the way it ended was a possibility in watch tower world..
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Mum
All high control groups operate the same way. I watched a movie (the title of which I do not recall) about the Mafia and saw lots of similarities to the borg.
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My own daughter has much suffered; she will get justice in due time.
by TheFadingAlbatros injust learned today direct from my beloved daughter that she has been abused between 5 and 12 years old by 2 brothers (her own cousins) and 1 family "friend".
she has attempted suicide a few days ago.
luckily she is living and she is not physically injured.
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Mum
There are no words to describe how despicable this situation is. My heart goes out to your daughter and all who care about her. I hope no one is telling her that she will "never" be normal again. She needs hope and strength. I pray that she gets through this and is able to build a good life for herself.
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Funeral for an atheist
by Stealth in99% of all funerals that i have attended have been the wt version, where they preach about the resurrection into paradise and say little about the person who passed other than they were loyal to jah.
the other 1% catholic for grandparents.. now that i consider myself an atheist, i got to wondering what do atheists plan for when they die?.
if you are a non-believer what are your plans for when you die?
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Mum
Donate my body to science. Give my assets (if I have any) to my descendants and donate anything they don't want to charity. Instead of flowers, donate to Shriners' Hospitals for Children, who gave me gazillions of dollars worth of free medical treatment and many positive experiences in my childhood. Invite people to come by and say a few words if they wish to, with no expectations or judgments about whether they do or not. Otherwise, my family is instructed to do what they think best.
At least in death, I may have something to give back to the world.
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Why is it wrong for Christians to celebrate Christmas?
by james_woods inthis was inspired by terry's thread.... it is something that raises many questions about the jw belief system.. .
for one thing - the bible certainly explains all the details of the christ birth.
it certainly does not tell people to avoid celebrating it with feasts, customs, etc.
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Mum
I once saw an ex-JW on "The John Ankerberg Show." He explained it this way:
There are two reasons for everything - the "reason" they tell you AND the real reason. He stated that he believed the real reason JW's can't celebrate Christmas and birthdays, among other holidays, is that it takes time away from their "ministry" and allows for bonding with "worldly" family. Not celebrating can create hostility and misunderstanding among family members, thus motivating the JW non-celebrant to feel "persecuted" and to be more controlled by the borg.
I think he was probably right.
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Mum
A few years ago, I attended a Korean Pentecostal Church for about a year. I noticed that the names for Biblical characters in the sermons (in Korean, with an English interpreter) were Spanish. When I inquired as to the reason for Spanish names in a Korean sermon, I was told that the first missionaries in Korea were Spanish. There are probably no Korean equivalents for these names.