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  Are you more ecological, more economical or more wasteful? Did your habits change at all when you left the borg?

  by likeabird in

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  i know from living on a borg budget, you don't have much choice but to live economically.

  recycling, while ecological, can also be a form of economy.. did the verse "god will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" play a guilt factor in your ecological habits?

  i know it used to hum along in the back of my mind.. did any of your habits change when you left the borg?

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  Mum

  My habits have nothing to do with my association with the borg.

  I grew up in the country in east Tennessee. We hillbillies were recycling and reusing before it was cool. We had to go outside and pump water, so we didn't waste it. When our clothes wore out, we cut away the parts that were not worn to make quilts. My grandfather plowed with a mule and planted. My grandparents hoed and weeded and harvested and preserved. So we didn't waste food. Any food we didn't eat was fed to the hogs. We saved large jars for milk (yes, my grandmother milked the cow every day). We saved any kind of container that might be useful.

  I have kept these habits of preserving. However, it is not useful anymore. I have piles of "stuff" that is useless to me. I end up having to get rid of it. I love the soft life.

  I have used material things to fill the emptiness at times. I am in the process of getting rid of much of that, too. I have given away carloads of books, yarn, art, and clothing.
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  Men & Women - How true this is!

  by SkyGreen in

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  http://s80.photobucket.com/user/dot_rpg/media/man-woman-switchboard.jpg.html .

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  Mum

  Once an employer of mine, a physician, was talking about how hard he worked compared to a female employee at the hospital. I asked him, "Do you prepare your own food?" Answer: "No." I asked him, "Who does your laundry and folds your clothes and keeps things where you can find them?" Answer: "My wife." I asked him, "Who sees that your children are fed, clothed, and nourished?" Answer: "My wife."

  I have worked for attorneys who actually had me write pleadings while they went out of town. I have had to keep track of their cases and help them with their bumbling attempts at word processing as well as correct their spelling and grammar.

  Men are good at assembling furniture and auto mechanics. I have seen male bartenders who have the patience of ten women.

  Labeling is useless. We are all individuals.
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  Why A True Believing Governing Body Member Cannot Be Humble?

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  governing body admonish all their members to be humble christians repeatedly almost to the point of verbal beatings to keep them in line with the corporation and humbly do the work they are asigned.

  they will use this scripture to examine whether or not a brother qualifies for being used as an elder:.

  2:24"but a servant of our lord ought not to fight, but to be humble toward every person, instructive and long-suffering,".

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  Mum

  "True Believing Governing Body Member" is an oxymoron. They belong to the Inner Party. They know it's all BS.

  They are control freaks and benefit by being arrogant while their patsies support them in grand style.

  The pope is 'way more humble than the GB.
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  Your own mortality, how do you cope with it?

  by CookieMonster in

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  2. friends

  i've been a lurker here and an inactive jw for a number of years.

  i've always had some annoying doubts but brushed it aside but over the last few years i've had time to "think" away from the wt.

  perhaps there is no paradise, maybe no god and this life is all there is.

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  Mum

  Having a limited time here motivates us to do something with our time. If we knew we would live forever, where would the motivation be to achieve? When the time comes to die, I figure I'll be ready.

  Do what you want to do with the time you have. Free yourself, and don't worry about what anyone else thinks.
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  No more big District Conventions?

  by serenitynow! in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i went to the hall today for a funeral and took a look at the bulletin board.

  i was surprised to see a letter stating the dc for michigan would be held at the local assembly hall instead of the big convention center in ohio where it had been held the past few years.

  have you all heard about this?.

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  Mum

  Besides cost savings, smaller assemblies will draw less attention. There may come a time when just as many apostates as JW's are present for assemblies. The number of protestors might outnumber the number of attendees - admittedly, not likely but not as far-fetched as it sounds.
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  A.D. -The Most Important Book Today?

  by metatron in

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  2. friends

  i just started reading "a.d. - after disclosure" by richard dolan.

  it is an attempt to rationally predict what will ( or would, depending on your viewpoint) happen when authorities around the world admit that extraterrestrials exist and first contact happens.. will markets crash?

  will religions collapse?

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  Mum

  The universe is so vast that it seems almost unbelievable that there is no other life out there.

  The existence of aliens is a lot more plausible than the existence of demons and/or the GB's being all there is between mankind and the God of the Universe!
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  Getting Your Money Back From The Governing Body For Selling You A Worthless Bunch Goods

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well think about this for a minute what happens when one wills his property or something valueable to the watch tower money grabbing corporation and then finds out the corporation is all based on a crack pot delusion, how can you get your money back if you signed over a deed to them signed a will granting them that.. and what about all our volunteer service to sell books and magazine for them free of charge without any reembersments?.

  i mean could this open some interesting lawsuits against them?

  and what about all their outrageous lies and horrible treatment they inflict upon the leaveing disbeleiver there might be an angle of some sort of legal action but i'm not a lawyer but i see some legal recousre for money spent while serving the nonprofit corporation because of false advertisements in thier literature..

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  Mum

  No doubt the WT has harmed a lot of people, but mostly because we allowed them to. Children born into JW families are the most tragic victims of their inhumane policies. They are a corporation marketing themselves as a "religion," so they are protected from the consequences of ruining people's lives. In the U.S. at least, we have freedom of religion and freely chose to be JW's albeit perhaps without knowing exactly what we were getting into.

  A lot of people have lived a lie and bought into schemes, religious and otherwise. Usually, it's best to cut your losses and move on. I regret that I let myself be snookered by the JW's, but it was a phase I had to go through to learn some things and become more wary and less naive. I am just grateful that I didn't join Jim Jones' or David Koresh's cult, or Scientology. We are the lucky ones in certain respects.

  Most people who know anything about JW's would envy us the fact that they won't speak to us and don't want us in their bogus "religion."
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  NWT bible is wonderful (quotes)

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  someone on the jw lovers kool aid site jw talk.

  net posted how wonderful the nwt bible is and put this list of all the scholars that love it.

  my recollection is that many of these were taken out of context anyone here up on this one?.

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  Mum

  There is a logical fallacy called "appeal to authority." I think we've just been given an example of it.
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  by prinses1920 in

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  i living in the netherlands..

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  Aren't you the same one who is looking for a JW husband? I hope you changed your mind about that. Do you want English-speaking friends?
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  just curious. How about blood?

  by never a jw in

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  2. friends

  i have never been a jw, but i have lived literally surrounded by them since i married my wife, almost 20 years ago.

  since i never raised a fuss before, i guess i was also brain-washed into thnking that their religion was harmless and the leaders were well intended.. i have been reading your comments for many months and have come to realize how harmful the religion is.

  your comments have been mostly about the pain inflicted by shunning, deception in the literature, and the views on higher education.

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  Mum

  Some years ago, there was a story on the national news about a JW woman who died after she refused a post-accident blood transfusion.

  I knew this woman in the '60's when I lived in Ohio. I won't post her name.

  It was heartbreaking because she was really a nice person.