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  Hello

  by ctrwtf in

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  i thought it was time for a formal introduction.

  i've lurked here for literally years, sometimes posting sometimes not.

  but i've never told my story and now seems as good a time as any.

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  Mum

  Great story! As a convert with almost no JW family, I often wonder how much more traumatic it must be for born-ins to get out. You, obviously, are smarter than the average bear, and 'waaaay smarter than the average JW. That helps. I am so glad you were willing to accept the things you learned instead of rationalizing so you could stay connected to the bogus religion.

  Have you read Eric Hoffer's The True Believer? If not, I recommend it. It deals with some of the issues you brought up in your post.

  Welcome to freedom!
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  Mars One Expedition

  by Jomavrick in

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  you have probably heard that there is a mars expedition that is being planned in 2023 where a permanent human settlement will be established.

  people are applying for the opportunity at http://applicants.mars-one.com/.

  think about it, this might be the one chance we have to leave all the door knocker jw's behind,,,,,,.

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  Mum

  I suggest that we start a fund to send all JW's to Mars so they can start their "Paradise" without any flack from evil "apostates" or an evil world order.
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  I have just published my first book. ( consequences to follow )

  by sieborg in

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  i stopped going to the meetings last september and told them that i didn't want to be badgered.

  to be fair, they have not visited or called in nine months, apart from passing on their hello's to my wife and daughter who still attend.

  anyhoo, i have had a fair amount of time to do pretty much what i have wanted over the past 9 months and so i have just finished my book.

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  Thanks, laverite. In the 7th grade, on a spelling quiz, I spelled "judgment" as "judgement." My teacher marked it wrong, so I looked it up in the dictionary, where it showed both spellings. My teacher explained that "judgement" is the British spelling. I need to take a British spelling course.
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  Not even eating with such a man?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  not even eating with such a man?.

  today i added a new article to my blog taking a closer look at watchtowers doctrinal position that jehovahs witnesses should not even eat a meal with disfellowshipped individuals.

  as it turns out watchtower holds families among jehovahs witnesses to one standard and holds itself to a wholly different standard.

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  They're not even pretending that their inconsistency is "Bible-based." They are just taking care not to tarnish their image even more. Image is everything.
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  I have just published my first book. ( consequences to follow )

  by sieborg in

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  i stopped going to the meetings last september and told them that i didn't want to be badgered.

  to be fair, they have not visited or called in nine months, apart from passing on their hello's to my wife and daughter who still attend.

  anyhoo, i have had a fair amount of time to do pretty much what i have wanted over the past 9 months and so i have just finished my book.

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  Mum

  "camp Councillor" should be "camp counselor."
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

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  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  Mum

  That was quite an experience, COBE. I'm so glad it woke you up; that makes it worth listening to that drivel. I would add to their list the following:

  ameobae

  pond scum (got this one from Farkel)

  worldly people

  married sisters

  single sisters
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  Think outside the college Box

  by Giordano in

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  i was very impressed with the following information from kiplinger's magazine and considering my own experience it might be helpful to many on this forum.

  a lot has changed for those of us who graduated high school and decided to listen to our jw parents and our congregation and pioneer instead of furthering our education.

  i was that person, an indifferent hs student, not too prone to go on to college.

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  Band on the Run is right about certain skills (such as knowing the French language) not qualifying one for gainful employment. I went back to college in my mid 30's, thanks to my second husband. His philosophy was that education was about "living with yourself," not just employment. I had been a top student in French in high school and wanted to pursue a degree in it.

  What finally saved me career-wise was getting a government job. I came to Nevada and got a municipal job, first as a legal secretary, then as a human resources/hiring assistant, and, finally as a records librarian for the Building Department (my favorite and best paying job of all). Having the education can help you to score high on civil service tests. Tests are not weighted as much as they used to be in selection of employees, except for the federal government. A high score on a test can get you inside the door, but it won't keep you there.

  Because I have a pension now, I am 'way better off that I would be with Social Security alone. Now I am learning court reporting, as there is a dire shortage of people with this skill, and I'm told there is little to no age discrimination because what really counts is skill.
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  The Story of Joe

  by dozy in

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  when i was a young pioneer , over the years i had built up a route call and every wednesday afternoon myself and a couple of the other pioneers would walk ( or if adverse weather , drive ) around the streets of our town and the surrounding villages distributing the magazines.

  most houses were empty , which didnt really matter - it was a pleasant diversion from what was generally quite a harsh unfruitful territory to work.

  we would talk about the things young ones talk about girls , football , tv and , er , girls chewing the fat over the latest gossip.. in our congregation , joe , a retired brother in his 70s lived with his non-jw worldly ( but very pleasant and hospitable ) wife , jean.

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  Surely everyone who has been a JW suffers from guilt of some kind for neglecting family or others we would have liked to spend more time with. You did well, dozy, better than most JW's IMHO.
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  What would it take for YOU to come back?

  by noonehome in

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  Mum

  What rip van winkle said, and a few more items, such as:

  full equality for women, respect and care for children, free housing, free food, freedom, of thought, acceptance of human differences.

  As others have pointed out, you have been brainwashed. I have seen TV documentaries about former cult members who have been deprogrammed, and they admit that they know it was wrong but still feel drawn back to it at tiumes.

  Hang in there. Get counseling and any other help you need to get over it. Make a list of "reasons" why you think you might want to go back. If I made such a list, it would be blank.

  Best wishes on your journey to total freedom.
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  Email from my JW brother

  by nicsfreedom in

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  i will not get into details as far as defending my position, just know that when reviewing his letter he does not have all the facts.

  which now, i plan to go thru, if he is willing.

  i started a letter to him and then i decided to call because i do not want the aftermath of everything being in writing.

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  Mum

  It's usually best not to be on the defensive. That gives the other party the advantage. You may need to let your brother go for a while, and he wants to talk, let him come to you. You do not owe him an explanation for anything. From the sound of it, he may be accusing you of things just to put you on the defensive (the stuff about trying to get the girls to feel sorry for you). If you want pity, you're not ready for life in the real world. If he accuses you of seeking pity, he is not answering your concerns, but creating a strawman.

  Proceed with caution.