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OMG! The world is worse than ever! This system can't last! Violence is increasing! Wait, what's that you say?

by sir82 in

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if you read jw literature, the world has been progressively getting "worse and worse" since 1914.. is that really the case?.

for a more rational analysis, look here:.

a few highlights:.

Mum

The difference between the violence of the past and the present is that the people of the past only knew what happened in their village, but the people of the present have 24-hour access to information about everything everywhere. In fact, I have read that the New York Times Sunday edition has more information than an individual of the 14th century took in in his/her lifetime.

Those who don't learn history, who don't read anything but WT publications, have no idea about the past or how good they have it now.

Grateful to be living now,

Mum

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Governing Body at Bethel and their daily routine

by Tenacious in

i never had the privilege to serve at bethel .. therefore, community help is greatly appreciated friends.. do the gb members have their own living quarters separate from the average jw?.

does their "busy" schedule permit field service, if yes, how many hours a month?.

how long are their weekly wednesday meetings?.

Mum

I know very little about the GB and their habits. I do know that JWdom has changed drastically since I left. The GB are moving to the country and seem to be spending a lot on amenities that are not available to the rank and file. Instead of being grateful to the rank and file for their free ride, they just keep asking for more and more money - quite a change!

Similarly, U.S. Congresspeople are also in the pockets of those with plenty of money to share with them.

I don't believe the GB live the opulent lifestyle of a Joel Osteen or Jimmy Swaggart, but they do seem more out of touch with the real world than JW leaders of the past and don't seem to care about the suffering of sexually molested children in the interest of protecting their "reputation" and image.

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Feeling down as Christmas nears

by Quandry in

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i don't think i've started but one or two threads before.

i find myself sitting here listening to beautiful instrumental christmas music and feeling down.. you see, i was "in" for over thirty years.

thirty years with no christmas.

Mum

It might do you good to volunteer at a soup kitchen or, in some other way, reach out to your fellow human beings in need. I am often amazed at the good cheer and kindness of the down-and-out.

Don't be hard on yourself, whatever you decide to do. We can't change the past.

Wishing you a Merry Christmas!

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

Mum

I don't see Hortensia's post as being a "why don't you get on with your life" statement. Sometimes it's so hard to find the right words so that what one says will not be misinterpreted.

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life after the wtbts

by Hortensia in

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you can't move forward to a new, more interesting, possibly much happier life, if you're still looking behind at the former life.. there is so much obsession on here about what the wtbts is doing, and discussing all the forms of injustice and bullshit in the wtbts, or how to bring down the wtbts.

yes, their doctrines are crazy and they are a cult and cruel to boot.

move on.

Mum

I have been out since 1979. I have taken long "leaves of absence" from this board, sometimes because I lacked internet access, but I keep coming back. My hope is that I will find other ex-JW's who I know personally on here. So far, it hasn't happened. I've been to a few apostafests as well, but still no luck. I have found some of my ex-JW former associates on Facebook, which is wonderful.

I entirely agree with Hortensia. Since I exited the JW's, I have obtained a college degree, helped my daughter do the same, associated with people of all kinds who I like and admire, traveled, and enjoyed life in general so much more! I was a convert, so leaving family members behind was not a serious issue with me. Both of my parents became baptized JW's after I exited, but they did not shun me. But I was never DF'ed, but moved far away from my congregation.

As my second husband used to say, "Don't believe a word I say. Trust your own bad eye." It's great to be who you really are. It's wonderful to live from the inside than to be told what to do from the outside.

Best wishes to everyone!

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A public thank you to Joe Grundy

by Pams girl in

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i have been going through the most terrible time these past 4 weeks, which has nothing to do with the jw, and everything to do with being abandoned with anxiety, panic and agoraphobia, and a new diagnoses of an illness called pmdd, which robbed me of my career, and it seems, my marriage, as my husband has moved out and left me with our son.

this man, this "stranger", jumped in his car to offer me support, and travelled 2 hours to be with me, despite what was going on with him, just be with me for a few hours and try to help.

what an amazing selfless act.

Mum

I'm so sorry for what you're going through. When I was young, I read Dr. Wayne Dyer's book, entitled Your Erroneous Zones. I see that book in used book stores still. It really helped me to deal with negative emotions (guilt, worry fear, etc.) and gave me incentive to start thinking for myself and stop being an obedient slave. I recommend that you read it. There are many great self-help books out there.

Wishing you health and strength and many friends like Joe.

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Looking for Truth with a capital "T"?

by Terry in

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friends

stop begging for crumbs like a pigeon in the park!.

nobody anywhere has truth tied up with a red ribbon to hand to you so you.

can go skipping down the road with a smile!.

Mum

Again I am reminded of an observation made by my college classmate Jim Morgan, who said, "Most people are just looking for somebody to follow." While it's great to seek wisdom from varied sources, following someone limits you so much. Learn from anyone who has wisdom and insight, but be you, who you are inside. No one else can tell you who you are and what you want to do. Look inward, for there is "where it's at."

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Elder's School: 2015 KMS Program

by pixel in

good morning.

want to attend?.

kingdom ministry school.

Mum

It's probably somewhat appropriate for a large group of men with a 3rd-grade reading level and no critical thinking skills.

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Many Member Just Want to Believe

by OnTheWayOut in

if you are/were an active jw, you are now here on jwn so, for whatever your reasons, you woke up to some degree- hopefully a great degree.

so what i am saying may not apply to you.. i know that if i had not already left, i would have stormed out on the day they studied "overlapping generation.

" i am quite confident i couldn't have stayed for such an obvious switcharoo just to make the end seem imminent and try to explain how wts was wrong, but not entirely wrong in the past.. but i had to wonder how that change (or others) didn't cause most jw's to walk out.

Mum

When I was in college (to which I returned in my 30's), a classmate once observed that "most people are just looking for somebody to follow." I don't know why I felt like I'd just been blasted with ice water, but I did. It's great to learn from others and seek wisdom, but what you want and need can only be found within yourself. Nobody you follow can do anything for you that you can't do for yourself. Just do it!

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Funny Video - Phone call to Bethel

by Listener in

this video is hilarious and very, very clever.

youtuber, theunwitness makes a call to hq and asks the question "can i talk to anthony morris?

" and uses matthew 18:15-17 as his reason.

Mum

It probably would be easier to get an audience with the Pope than with the "ivory tower" GB members. This telephone conversation had so much repetition because the goon who worked for Morris couldn't get his head around "between you and him alone." I don't know if the borg even pretends to be "Bible-based" anymore. It seems rare that they ever speak of anything Biblical.