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  Disfellowshipped playing BINGO!!

  by kpax in

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  i heard the strangest thing today.

  in the 70's you could be df'd by playing bingo.

  kpax

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  Of course, like so many of the "don'ts" of Witness life, there'll be a lot of it happening on the QT...my 30+ yr. JW mother certainly didn't seem to have any qualms about coming to a charity stall I was helping to run and buying a strip of tickets for the tombola...but then, she thankfully has enough of her own mind to maintain a good relationship with me, even though the rest of the family have decided to shun me as an apostate (and me not even baptised - oy!)

  "I'm just an animal lookin' for a home..."
  - Talking Heads, 'This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)'
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  Buggin Out !

  by mmetz in

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  i would like to say to all who care, i am leaving this thread for good.

  the bible talks about the unbeliever and those are the true apostates.

  even though there are many here who truly love the lord as i do and have shared and taught an awful lot of helpful information to help me fight the battle against false religion, i thank you and pray for each of you.

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  mmetz: so soon? [8>]

  "They never told me what was the truth - just a young man losing his youth..."
  - The Stranglers, 'Bear Cage'
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  Amusing little piece in today's Independent

  by expatbrit in

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  greed, sloth, envy and ironing-board covers .

  the independent - united kingdom; feb 6, 2002. by miles kington.

  yesterday i brought you part of a current court case in which a man called palfrey is up on a charge of burglary.

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  musicnonstop

  Nice one, Expat! Though I think he might be guilty of rehashing one of Spike Milligan's ideas - remember his pacifist "Jehovah's Boxer"?

  One other example of the genre that I just had to mention that tickled me when I saw it...a cartoon - two middle aged men in drag with briefcases on the doorstep, woman answering the door; the caption - "Good evening, madam - we're J. Edgar Hoover's Witnesses..."

  "They never told me what was the truth - just a young man losing his youth..."
  - The Stranglers, 'Bear Cage'
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  Average age of apostates survey.

  by sleepy in

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  i thought it might be a good idea to find out at what age or after how long we descided to leave the watchtower.. prehaps we my find a patern in it which we could use .. i think what we need to know are ,.

  1.age you left the watchtower.

  (or age you found out it was wrong).

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  musicnonstop

  1. 28/29 - Started having doubts somewhere in mid-20s, then a major personal crisis meant I started 'fading out' from meetings etc. at about 27, but the final decision to mentally 'divorce' from the WT took a while...

  2. Never got dunked (so no DF/DA - a small mercy )

  3. Brought up in it.

  "They never told me what was the truth - just a young man losing his youth..."
  - The Stranglers, 'Bear Cage'
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  The Un-born

  by seedy3 in

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  i have a question.

  according to the beliefs of the jw's do the unborn babies take part in the resurection after the "great day"??

  i need to have some reference in the wt literature.

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  The WT rails against abortion as being in contravention of the sanctity of human life and God's law against murder (including in that statement the use of the 'morning-after pill'), and yet sees no inconsistency:

  (a) in deeming a baby dying naturally before full term as being a human life of somehow lesser value, i.e. not worth a resurrection, and, far more reprehensibly,

  (b) being willing, in principle, to sanction the death of an unborn baby (and its mother) through their unscriptural blood doctrine - and I was that baby...so you might appreciate how words cannot describe my utter contempt for the GB

  "They never told me what was the truth / Just a young man losing his youth..."
  - The Stranglers, "Bear Cage"
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  If Evolution were untrue part 2

  by badboy in

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  how did lactose tolerence/in-tolerence came about?.

  also a high pertengage(sic)of people in asia have a severe reaction.

  when drank whereas europeans are tolerent of wine/alcohol?.

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  Re the Asian (more specifically Oriental) alcohol intolerance issue: not sure whether your question was rhetorical, but as far as I'm aware, the problem is a genetic one - in the case of the Oriental races, the liver fails to produce an enzyme (alcohol dehydrogenase) which eliminates the toxic byproducts of the breakdown of alcohol; FYI, the drug disulfiram (Antabuse) works by suppressing the production of this enzyme, thus producing its unpleasant aversionary side-effects by allowing these toxins to be released into the bloodstream.

  "And the first commandment reads that human flesh and blood is sacred - until there is no more food..."
  - The Stranglers, 'Straighten Out'
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  Newbie alert !!! Just wanted to say hello...

  by sadiejive in

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  i came here by chance...looking for none other than jw material:) i am currently studying with jw's and attend the kh but am not baptized, as are none of the members of my fam...yet.

  i've been studying for almost 4 years with the witnesses.

  i am confused...that's the simplest way of putting it.

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  "#See my Sadie jive...#" (one for UK posters of a certain vintage )

  Seriously, welcome, SJ

  "And the first commandment reads that human flesh and blood is sacred - until there is no more food..."
  - The Stranglers, 'Straighten Out'
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  Life is ...

  by joelbear in

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  the friends we make and the good times we create and share together.. hugs.

  joel

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  musicnonstop

  ...An anagram of 'file'

  "Whatever happened to all of the heroes, all the Shakespearoes? They watched their Rome burn..." - The Stranglers
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  God ordered abortions?

  by Julie in

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  i have a question.

  i have asked it in a private discussion with a fundamentalist who cowardly ignored the whole premise of the thought and am hoping there is someone here who can address it.. i am aware of the fact that abortion is one hot button topic.

  it is not my intention to make this a debate about abortion.

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  As far as I can make out, it's just another example of the same twisted, contradictory "logic" that allows the WT to cite scripture in railing against all abortion [and even the use of certain contraception], while being prepared, in principle, to sanction the death of an unborn child and its mother for want of a blood transfusion. And I know - I WAS that baby... Happily, though (to lift a line from 'Holy Grail'), "I got better" - but that was IN SPITE of my mother's (whom I love dearly) misguided beliefs, not BECAUSE OF....

  "Whatever happened to all of the heroes, all those Shakespearoes? They watched their Rome burn..." - The Stranglers
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  Whats your thoughts on sex & the WTS

  by Leander in

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  hopefully this topic won't shock anyone, i'll try to keep my comments as tasteful as possible.

  just recently (last weekend) my younger brother met with the elders because he was engaged in fornication.

  the elders decided to disfellowship him even though he had long stopped having any contact with the person he had been involved with.

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  I think Joel touched on what it's all about, at least as far as the WT's concerned - control through guilt, and guilt through sex (something that seems to be common to all the monotheistic religions - figures that the Hindus came up with the Kama Sutra ).

  And GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE YOUNG... God, when I think back to the sheer agonies of guilt I went through as a young JW lad growing up; feeling like the lowest leper, unfit to be around women, just for doing what every man, woman and child's been up to since the dawn of time...sneaking the rare, occasional "skin book", then shredding the evidence and disposing of it as far away from the house as possible - all the while, various then-'worldly' sibs of mine were out rooting merrily away to their heart's content...*sigh*

  Nowadays I'm of the opinion that if God is someone (and I no longer think He IS) who endows humans with strong sexual urges when they're still no more than children, then immediately slaps a ton of guilt on their backs for exploring those urges (even alone), purely for the sole purpose of making their young lives a misery, then as far as I'm concerned, God's a sick twisted bastard who certainly doesn't deserve my respect, let alone worship...

  Of course, I know better now - the sick, twisted bastards responsible for this unending tide of adolescent neurosis are in Brooklyn....

  <B>"God help us, help us lose our minds..."</B> - <I>Talking Heads, "Slippery People"</I>