Posts by musky

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MORE ON 1975, FOR MUSKY

by Liberty in

along with musky's 1975 post i've just seen another so i wanted to try and reach musky again and reach others who wonder about the reality of the society's 1975 speculations.

af and others have done an excellent job documenting what was actually said by the watchtower society through their own official publications and spokesmen.

as a person who was actually there in those heady times of the late 60's and early 70's these official documents confirm what my memory tells me i knew all along, that of course the society actively promoted 1975 as a "marked date" or a date of "great significance" at the very least.

musky

liberty, I came across your post by mistake. good post. Appreciated.

" Before 1975 you would have been DFed for claiming that the big "A" was years off in the future but after this failed date this began to slowly change and you were allowed to be against "date setting" and to bad mouth those "faithless" nameless "overzealous" Brothers who promoted 1975,"

I do not agree with that statement. You would have to give me an example of someone who was disfellowshipped for simply saying that the end was years off in the future.

" I'm glad I'll be destroyed in the big "A" if Jehover makes the survivors keep having these painfully boring conventions for eternity. Hell is looking better and better!"

Come on now liberty! were they really that bad? LOL.

winsome,

"It was "Jehovah's Witnesses" who made the mistake. Not the WTS or the Faithful and Discreet Slave. So the WTS and F&D Slave is not guilty of this sin. The brothers simply "conjectured". It wasn't actually taught in the printed publications by the F&D Slave."

I have no idea how you can make such a statement. It makes no sense to me. Don't you think that WTS or F&D slave considers themselves Jehovahs witnesses??

Alan F had some more articles that he directed me to, in addition to the ones you posted, like "WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FORWARD TO 1975?"
How does your math figure with an article with that title?

It is not my intent to cause hard feelings with anyone . musky

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JEHOVAH JUDGES ABUSIVE ELDERS

by You Know in

repeatedly, the scriptures admonish jehovahs people to stay in wakeful anticipation of gods judgments.

the not so obvious reason being that we don't know exactly how jehovah's judgments are going to go down.

however, the ordering of events once the judgment commences should not be in question.

musky

LDH, "Ratherflawed". LOL
musky

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How do you know that you really have "The ...

by Lady Lee in

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friends

the society's first president, c. t. russell, died in 1916 and was succeeded the following year by joseph f. rutherford.

many changes took place.

a companion magazine to the watchtower, called the golden age, was introduced.

musky

lady lee, I think that there are some godly people in many different religeons. I am an inactive witness. For years i have tried to find that "one right religeon". Currently i am looking into the bible students that you posted about. I can't hardly believe anymore that Gosd has only one religeon, and all others will be killed if they don't belong to it. Why is knowing the truth so hard for an adult like me, when the bible says that a young child shall lead them. Doesent that mean that the truth should be able to be discerned by a very young person? Musky

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JWs using cartoons...

by Valis in

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friends

the last time i saw my children the 5 year old brings me a new video tape she wants to watch.

it was from grandma.

there it was, the story of noah brought to you by none other than the wtbts...needless to say it went right into the trash.

musky

Carmel, great comments! Good idea to keep kids informed.

musky

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bible students

by musky in

i was at the bible students website recently, and i noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there.

i am an inactive witness.

in my research i found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed gods plans for us.

musky

Carmel, thanks for your comments

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bible students

by musky in

i was at the bible students website recently, and i noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there.

i am an inactive witness.

in my research i found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed gods plans for us.

musky

RR,

Thanks for your reply. I think I don't understand the structure of the bible students. Is there a elder in each group? How big is a group? How many deacons? These can be nominated by any member of the bible students? I will need to do more research on this. I will try to find out more from the bible students website.

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bible students

by musky in

i was at the bible students website recently, and i noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there.

i am an inactive witness.

in my research i found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed gods plans for us.

musky

RR,

"I tell people, the worst thing that can happen to someone who doesn't see eye to eye with the class on certain issues, is that you will probably never serve as elder or deacon."

This thought bothers me a little. It seems that an opposing view might knock one down a notch with the bible students. As the witnesses would call it "spiritually weak". Although i feel that the watchtower takes it step by step until either the opposing view is changed or the persn is labeled a trouble maker.

"My philosophy is, if you think you have the truth, then nothing anyone says or does should shake your foundation."

You really have me thinking with this philosophy. I used to think I had the truth . I was raised a witness. at 19 i met a born again at work. I worked with him for 4 years, and we always argued about who was right. If I had stood my ground, and followed your philosophy, maybe I would still be a witness today. Instead I started questioning things. But I just could not put those things out of my mind and just forget about all those doubts , like the witnesses wanted me to do.

I appreciate your replies. Thank you

musky

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bible students

by musky in

i was at the bible students website recently, and i noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there.

i am an inactive witness.

in my research i found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed gods plans for us.

musky

thanks for all the info guys. I agree with rr that my trust will be in the scriptures. rr, do you feel that the bible students are the only right religeon? Do you think that it is the closest belief system to the real truth of the bible? I am still searching. I am trying to find the right belief system. Maybe there is none. Maybe the right one is my own personal relationship with God. But I gotta believe that God would want me and my family to fellowship with others in person, like a regular meeting or something. Personally I am a loner, so not going anywhere is fine with me for now. I was raised as witness, and I will say that the fellowship was definitely there, with all those meetings and field service. But they won't accept the fact that I have some opposing viewpoints on some doctrines.This is not acceptable to them. So I don't go where im not wanted. musky

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bible students

by musky in

i was at the bible students website recently, and i noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there.

i am an inactive witness.

in my research i found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed gods plans for us.

musky

I was at the bible students website recently, and I noticed they have the "studies in the scriptures" volumes there. I am an inactive witness. In my research I found that russell taught that secret measurements in the pyramids revealed Gods plans for us. Is this teaching still held by bible students?? I thought this was a good website, but???? musky

http://www.biblestudents.net/

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The Osbournes. Anyone else watching?

by BeautifulGarbage in

the season finale is on tonight.

mtv at 10:30pm.. i didn't catch the first few epidsodes, but i have to admit, i find the show hilarious.

i'm hooked.

musky

Have not seen the show. I do not intend on ever watching it. I saw this guy on a tv interview. Did not impreess me at all. All I remember about him is his music, and what he stands for in my mind. I have a lot more respect for the quiet man who takes care of his family, does honest work, does not do drugs. Of course they are never in the spotlight. Just my thoughts, which don't mean much.