Here's to no more lies, but a life of meaning and truth!
00DAD
usually around the end of the year i look back at what i have experienced over the 12 months.
one of the things that i must say 2012 has been a year of change and freedom and learning for me.
i could not have gotten where i am mentally if it was not for you guys here are jwn.. .
Here's to no more lies, but a life of meaning and truth!
00DAD
i am not a drinker but i hear single malt whiskeys are good.. yesterday at the liquor store, i asked a nice man, who also was looking over the bottle display, if he could tell me which one does he prefer and why.
one of the store clerks, came by, listening, and said she preferred the same bottle.. i bought the one they preferred:.
glenmorangie.
Laphroaig is excellent, but very peaty. Not the best starter SM for the uninitiated.
The absolute best is Abelour A'Bunadh. But you gotta learn how to drink it.
Watch this excellent video with Alex Robertson:
some time ago i uploaded a video to youtube that was a medley of different young ones singing "listen obey and be blessed.
" as you can imagine, it's rather creepy.. here it is.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou802omcnvq.
my intention in making the video was twofold.
You made this? video look creepier than it really is
Creepier than it really is ... interesting. Do they listen to themselves when they speak/type? Apparently not!
see page 15-16. full of "straw men" like:.
* do not blame yourself it is the child that jehovah blames - parents do not care whose fault it is they just want their child not to be killed by god.
* it is ok for parents to hope their df'd child returns - was anybody really asking if that was wrong?.
The notion that anyone would think that they have the right to tell another person who they can and cannot talk to is completely ridiculous. The only think more ridiculous is that anyone would go along with it.
I admit to going along with it for a while. It's humbling to admit that I accepted this bullshit. But it's because I trusted them. This is why, once I found out what frauds, liars and hypocrites they are, my anger was so great!
00DAD
see page 15-16. full of "straw men" like:.
* do not blame yourself it is the child that jehovah blames - parents do not care whose fault it is they just want their child not to be killed by god.
* it is ok for parents to hope their df'd child returns - was anybody really asking if that was wrong?.
finkelstein: The WTS. is known to talk from both corners of their mouths, they say one thing but then they act in opposition to what they've said another time.
Yes.
It's important to remember that the Awake! quote if for PUBLIC consumption while the WT quote is a MEMBERS ONLY piece.
This is one of the most obvious signs if a destructive cult, having separate and different Insider and Outsider doctrines.
Let's review: It's a cult!
apart from, "it's a cult, ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun".
As fun as it might be to post some of the things you've all said above ^^^^^, it'd be more effective to point out flaws, errors and contradictions in whatever nonsense is currently posted, to do so in a calm, rational and reasoned manner and let the JWs respond with their usual incoherent vitriol.
00DAD
i want to have an open and honest discussion out in the open between just you and me, about if being born agian is only of the 144,000 or is it a must for all to live forever on earth.
neither of us can avoid questions and must answer the other question before ,the other can ask another question.
no going off topic and only talk about this.
kurtbethel: Repeatedly claiming something is not proof that the claim is true.
Exactly! This is the point I was making when I posted earlier, "Merely stating, 'Evidently, ...' in a sentence does NOT constitute proof. It's necessary to provide some actual evidence."
00DAD
i found lots of links but they don't work.
does anyone have one that works?.
well it comes as no surprise that the "official" watch tower web site has no place to leave a comment you can only leave your address if your interested.. can you imagine if they did have a place where you can post comments what would happen?.
i'm sure the lack luster of the wt web site is due to the fact that a bunch of old governing body member must go over it with a fine toothed comb and with all thier other business to carry out as corporation executives it is just to time consuming and lets face it these old guys just don't have what it takes to bring this organization thru the 21st century, they are too lost in thier delusion, they are fighting thier own shadow, the enemy is everyone that disagrees with them and they are so steeped in denial they don't want to hear any comment that doesn't agree with them.
they only want confirmation biased statements to read, all else must be resisted and faught against.. internet presents is very important to the wt or it should be as door to door sales will no longer pay the bills, who wants a trashy magazine when you can down load info cheaply and quickly off the net.. these delusional old guys running the wt will be the reason they go belly up.
Duh! I thought you knew: they're not interested in your thoughts or anyone else's.
this quote was just so annoying and unbelievable it stunk the pages right up.
but doesn't all the wt rhetoric stink it up ?
in the article titled, " find real success in life " on pg.
1925 + 100 = 2025.
They're learning. Hardly anyone lives to be over 100 and few, if any of them, ever bought into WT bullshit.
I feel you're pain. I'm right there with you.
The sad fact is these assholes are getting even MORE devious in their manipulative ways. They must be stopped.
Who is with me?
00DAD