Welcome, good example of critical thinking and how it exposes the flaws in WT/JW "theology."
I look forward to your future posts!
00DAD
i always knew as a kid tt wasnt for me.
i did not know ttatt but how could something thats supposed to be warm, loving and beneficial feel so wrong?
the light went on when i happened to be watching some chat show that had a family of white supremecists on.
Welcome, good example of critical thinking and how it exposes the flaws in WT/JW "theology."
I look forward to your future posts!
00DAD
it's been a terrible economy these last few years.
i had a very successful loan brokerage and watched that crash and burn in 2011. i went back to my previous firm in the computer industry that was struggling after i left.
it seemed like a good match.
Actually DG, WH is much better looking than Will Ferrell.
it's been a terrible economy these last few years.
i had a very successful loan brokerage and watched that crash and burn in 2011. i went back to my previous firm in the computer industry that was struggling after i left.
it seemed like a good match.
Can you sign a copy for my first, I mean before you shuffle of this mortal coil?
Something like this, "To 00DAD, with all my love and snarkiness!"
so as some of you already may know, i have stopped going to meetings for good and have nothing to do with wbts anymore...did not write a letter of disassociation because i dont believe an organization should spiritually execute me for rejecting men's tradition and false doctrine...some of you may recall i spoke to my wife and are in good terms, even though she's still an active jw.
my parents are both active jw's...when i visited them yesterday, they clearly did not expect me to tell them i had left the "org"...to my huge surprise, after i explained to them i had found ttatt (truth about the truth) and gave compelling evidence of my reasoning, and using the scriptures, they totally sided with me...i was dumbfounded...one of my parents even brought up ray franz and his book coc....i was like wtf??.
they told me all of these years they never had the guts to say anything about the hypocrisy in this org and they were glad that i as their son was able to step up and believe what is right and what is on the bible...they re-assured their love to me and they were happy i had found happiness in jesus christ and the need to have a personal relationship with him and not through a man made organization.... i totally did not expect this response from my parents...but it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active jw's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the org...still don't know what they are going to do, but i got the feeling they will do the same eventually and move on from the wbts.... have a great week everyone.
nolongerconfused: it just leaves me to think that there are thousands of active JW's out there feeling the same way and don't have the courage to step up to the ORG
I suspect you're right. Everyone is afraid, afraid of being expelled and shunned. Afraid of losing their relationships. Many have no one outside of the organization.
Imagine a family where no one in the family believes it, but they all pretend for the sake of each other. This is what this religion does. It coerces you to be fake.
I'm pretty sure that's not what Jesus had in mind.
The GB has clearly lost the thread and they don't have the courage to admit it. This is a religion that breeds cowards that fool themselves into thinking they are brave. Their only security is the herd.
I'm a so happy that it worked out well for you and your parents. Perhaps all these years they were afraid to express their doubts to you because they were unsure how you would respond.
Best wishes,
00ADAD
it's been a terrible economy these last few years.
i had a very successful loan brokerage and watched that crash and burn in 2011. i went back to my previous firm in the computer industry that was struggling after i left.
it seemed like a good match.
wha happened?: I wish I could get paid for making snarky comments, that seems to be a skill I have.
God, you'd be a freaking gazillionaire with your impressive skill set!!!
I'm envious, you know that don't you?
00DAD
surely most of you have had this experience at least once .
you start a topic / thread and before you know it somebody has taken it way off on another tangent, completely away from your original topic , and evrybody has gone down that path .and you come back and think wtf ?
happened here .?
ADD
here is what the jw's say about disfellowinshipping.
i can not seem to past the text from their website help.. .
Wasanelder Once, sadly, you're right.
Still, it sounds better in print than it ends up working out in practice.
Their idea of "helping" is to shun you.
here is what the jw's say about disfellowinshipping.
i can not seem to past the text from their website help.. .
jw.org: Disfellowshipped individuals may attend our religious services. If they wish, they may also receive spiritual counsel from congregation elders.
I'm pretty sure most elders do NOT know this. I was an elder for over 20 years and we were NEVER told such a thing. The most we were instructed to do was make our perfunctory annual visits on DF'd ones in our territory.
Of course it could be new, I've been out for a few years, but I doubt it.
I think this is just media hype for the PUBLIC. A little PR for the uninitiated.
hello, i haven't been on here in awhile and it looks like a whole new crowd.
i disassociated myself about 8 years ago.
went through a divorce and shunning from most my family.
bavman, wow. That's terrible!
I endured a similar situation.
What this religion does to famillies is simply terrible.
Have you read Steven Hassan's book, Releasing the Bonds? He has many good ideas on what to do, and probably more importantly what NOT to do, to reach loved ones in a destructive mind-control cult.
I highly recommend it.
00DAD
i heard that there was a recent (january 2013) big shake up on the west coast in orange california.
i think it is a kingdom hall on taft street in orange that has a double hall.
anyway, i heard that there were 10 to 15 disfellowshiped, others given public reproof and several congregations broken up and new conregations started as a result.
Well that WOULD be Big News!
I hope details are forthcoming!!!