Since I left the organization - I am disowned
so I was wondering...
Can you adopt me?
:O)
Love how you handled the situation...
i want to thank so many of you for giving me the ammunition i needed to initiate actions that i hope will save at least one of my two children from the cult of the wtbts.
i have been able to undertake some positive actions in no small measure because of all you people here.
some of you may recall from earlier posts that two of my boys friends were dis-fellowed and that i went ballistic when my kids told me they were not allowed to talk to their best friends because the society says we cant.
Since I left the organization - I am disowned
so I was wondering...
Can you adopt me?
:O)
Love how you handled the situation...
well the other thread has gotten long concerning the association of te wtbts and the un so i started this one here.
i just got off the phone with a man in patterson concerning this issue and i will post most of convo here.. first of all if you do call beware they play kingdom melodies when you are on hold!.
ok a man answers the phone giving me his first name.
Well there you have it, I can see it now. At the judicial committee, "Yes brother, i committed adultry but it was a historical affair. So we do not have to worry about this committee thing."
An official WT loophole has now been created.
That was priceless!! I love loopholes...ROFLMAO
i'm interested in finding out what everyone is reading these days.. or what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.. what have you found helpful in re-constructing and broadening the way you think and feel?.
what have you found to be particularly enlightening on 'your journey?'.
thanks in advance,luv to all.tina.
what books have had an impact on your worldview since leaving the org.
Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagen
Thick Face Black Heart by Chin Ying Chu
Harry Potter -- all 4
my question for everyone is how did you leave the org?
not really what led up to it but what did you do to no longer be a part of it?.
personally, i think i have to have one of the more humerous stories of leaving.
Decided enough was enough - didn't want to feel like a hypocrite anymore - I was the PO's wife so I took the following steps:
Filed for Divorce
"Scripturalized" the Divorce
"Best Friend" in the 'Formerly Known as the Truth' told soon - to - be ex-husband
Didn't want to go through DF procedure and embarrass the children
Wrote DA letter - hand delivered to first elder in the parking lot on a Sunday.
Announced the following Thursday - no questions asked
this weekend in texas a man from over their was killed.
only reason the way he looked.
in mesa az.
Thank you Crossroads for your attempts to make others understand how Arabs - Muslim and non-Muslim alike feel:
Isreal has a
State because of their own Terrorism on the Palestiniens.
WE supported that WHY WHY WHY WHY ? It was Terrorism
Look at what the Arabs see .
Arabs do not hate America and Americans - dispite how they phrase themselves. What they do HATE is America's foreign policy -- and their unconditional support for Israel - and supplying the arms that kill Arab men, women and children everyday. How can they be expected to grieve for our people who die -- when people here think the best Arab is a dead one?
Arabs are human like anyone else. Just like we want revenge for the death of our innocent neighbors -- they want revenge for the deaths that occur among their people DAILY. We are given time to grieve -- their events of death happen EVERY SINGLE DAY.
well, it happened.. just this morning i was talking to my aunt, a life-long book sales rep for the wbts.
she asked me, "lisa, do you ever think you'll come back?".
i replied, "come back to what?
Lisa and others,
I am so proud when I read the things you have said in defense of your positions for leaving, attitudes whatever. When I left 6 years ago - as the then presiding overseers wife -- I had just had it - with everything and couldn't put into words exactly what BOTHERED me...It was a combination of things -- nothing as noble as disagreeing intellectually with doctrines etc. -- just had enough of feeling like a hypocrite - of looking at "worldly" people like they were less-thans who were gonna die anyway...of all the political crap. I had spent 17 years of my life married to a congregation man - who spent so much time with his "priviledges" - that his children were strangers to him. I put EVERYTHING GOOD in and of myself into those 3 kids - and when I was afraid I was going to undo the good I had done -- or do something drastic like a fellow elders wife had done very recently then - commit suicide in their garage in a nearby congregation -- but just in case JW's were right -- I walked away from that life with just my clothes. In retrospect - I should have just taken some time off -- and done things a bit more logically but hind sight is 20/20.
I converted to Islam - it was/is much like JW but without all the compulsion -- or so I thought...each group within their factions try to tell you their way is the only way etc.-- but at least now I know how to argue and do very well with anything that is not logical to me. I love the way things are presented in the www.submission.org website -- although I as told this site is for "kafir" - unbelievers...figures I would like it...but anyway enough about this era of my life - I am still working on and through it.
I enjoy the many different posts here - both the negative and the positive, the silly and the serious. I think we would have been better off even while we were JW to realize that more of us unitedly have the same thoughts and concerns - and that we are NORMAL and good people -- not feeling like we are condemned by every non-conformist thought we may have.
I thank each and every one of you for all your thoughts that you share with us. It is up to us - using the logic that God has given us to accept or reject - or allow to affect us in any way the things we read here or anywhere.
warm regards,
denise
i've started getting an email every couple of minutes whenever anyone replies to any message (not only my messages).
anyone know how to stop it?
nytelecom1 - Your sense of humor is hysterical!! I am covering for an hour at the front switchboard...I read this and laughed out loud....now everyone is looking at me like a wierdo and I can't even explain....!!!
i was wondering, for those of you who have left the organization, how long did the transition take?
i mean, how long after you left did you feel up in the air, in turmoil, lost, unsettled?
long long before you felt comfortable with the decision and basically happy with your life?
I believe it varies from individual to individual. After 6 years I still feel dazed and confused about alot of things. Sometimes it bothers me, other times it doesn't. I will probably always feel like an outsider looking in but it is better than an insider looking longingly out...
hey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?
... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...
OMG -- I am still laughing with tears streaming down my face...thanks to all of you!!
It is slow at work so here I am ...sitting in the middle of tech support...laughing my fool head off -- no point in trying to explain to anyone...no one would remotely understand unless they had been "there" -- !!!
Thanks again...:-)
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