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  leave me alooone.....PLEASE!!!!

  by Angst in

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  i was born and raised a witness.

  baptized at 14. pioneered after high school and was accepted to bethel when i was 19. got booted from bethel on my 21st b-day because someone exposed me for underage drinking prior to my 21st b-day.

  after i left bethel, nothing was ever the same, and my eyes began to be opened and i started seeing more clearly.

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  mustang

  I see so much of the Patience, Time & Love will prevail here. It works on some but not all.

  Remember, most JW's have sat through years of this conditioning (propaganda). They have dis-engaged their brains and gone on 'auto-pilot'. When you disagree (even by saying nothing), it registers as an OBJECTION!!!!!!!!!

  Bingo, up pops the old studies on OVERCOMING OBJECTIONS.

  You just got demoted from RELATIVE to

  (drum roll)

  OBJECTION!!!!!!

  Time to go to work & put those Service Meeting talks to good use! @#%^&*

  If Angst gets to where I am/have been/am coming from, he (and I) will wish/are begging for one of Mouthy's type of relatives who will cut you off!!!

  PLEASE!!!!!! LEAVE ME ALONE!!! Some of us mean it.

  Mustang
  who just got word his Old Man is redoubling his campaign efforts
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  leave me alooone.....PLEASE!!!!

  by Angst in

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  i was born and raised a witness.

  baptized at 14. pioneered after high school and was accepted to bethel when i was 19. got booted from bethel on my 21st b-day because someone exposed me for underage drinking prior to my 21st b-day.

  after i left bethel, nothing was ever the same, and my eyes began to be opened and i started seeing more clearly.

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  mustang

  Angst,

  I have dealt with the same thing for my entire life. '3rd generation', 'raised in he truth', pioneered, was a servant, etc. etc, etc. I drifted off locally, then left & moved cross country. It didn't stop my Rutherford-ite father, who is also 'hell on wheels'. My mistake there was giving anyone near my father my address or phone number.

  I have done the yelling thing, I have done the ignore thing, I have done the polite listening thing (same as yes mom, no mom). You are right: the polite 'listening thing' says yes to them and they start asking 'when...'.

  After 23 years of this abuse, I simply stopped talking to him. (23 years times 1 phone call every 2 weeks = 23 X 26 or 598.) He refuses to admit that he has harassed me 600 times!!! BTW, the scripture says forgive your brother 70 X 7 (=490 times). I have discharged that scriptural obligation in spades!!!

  OK, how is the not answering working??? He has redoubled the efforts to contact me. His letters were simply chiding and asking why and sug-gesting that I return. Now they are taking on threatening overtones.

  He has also sent people to look me up. These people are uninvited and surprise me and it is embarrassing to explain that they have been lied to and tricked.

  Yes, he lies. One of his favorites is 'my son can't find the KH!!!'

  Nothing seems to get through the 'selective hearing'.

  It seems that I have been HARASSED, STALKED and certainly MY CIVIL RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.

  Unfortunately, as the previous paragraph indicates, this seems to be heading toward a LEGAL approach. This is distasteful enough that most people here (this discussion board) shy away from legal thoughts.

  I have been considering some things on this site about STALKING, but have not fully evaluated it:
  http://www.soshelp.org/

  I have developed legal approaches of my own. Unfortunately, a legal remedy may be the only real answer.

  Mustang
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  Attacking Newbie JW's

  by VioletAnai in

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  i was attacked here when i first admitted that i was studying with the jw's.

  i also noted that blessed_something or other (sorry, bad memory) was attacked also....just because we say something positive about the jw's!

  i think that is mighty unfair and defeats the purpose of you trying to turn us against the jw's.

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  mustang

  Francois: “if you FEEL you've been attacked, then your perception can't honestly be challenged. That's a JW technique.” Yep, shields up!!!!

  Farkel: basically, I’ll attack you but you can’t attack in return...
  Been there, done that.

  Being a JW is an ADVERSARIAL process.
  Leaving JW’s is an ADVERSARIAL process.
  Interacting or dealing with any of your JW past is an ADVERSARIAL process.

  You can’t change this. (JWism should be spelled W-A-R.)

  You lose, deal with it.

  Mustang
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  More Doom n' Gloom Baloney

  by metatron in

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  an interesting article by ben wattenberg appeared in the march 4.

  2002 wall street journal entitled "'overpopulation' turns out.

  to be overhyped".

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  mustang

  I am reminded of the scripture at Jer. 10:23 -
  "I know, O LORD, that the way of man is not in himself, that it is not in man who walks to direct his steps."

  ALL those who would seek to direct us will find some pitfall. It is simply up to mankind to work their way out of this one, as usual.

  But, Metatron, WTS can yet turn the tables and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory: we will suffer some (yet to be defined) mortal dangers of UNDERPOPULATION, no doubt!!!!

  Mustang

  All that I write or utter is considered to be protected by religious freedom under the Constitution of the United States, as the "free exercise" and "freedom of speech" clauses.
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  Fighting in Afghanistan/Warthog

  by Adam in

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  with all i've been reading in the newspaper, i have yet to hear one mention of the a-10 warthog.

  this plane is extremely manuverable, highly survivable with tripple redundant systems all thru the plane, and packs a major punch with its nose cannon which the plane was built around.

  it would seem perfect for the small arms fighting going on right now.

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  mustang

  TEST-4
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  300,000

  by larc in

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  just wanted to let you know that this db has had over 300,000 posts and almost 5,000 registered posters.

  all of this in a little over two years.

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  mustang

  So far, so good. Just make sure that Simon doesn't join the UN!!!!
  Just kidding.

  Mustang
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  How Field Service Destroys the WTS

  by metatron in

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  years ago, congregations all over the world were built up.

  and solidified by the door to door work.

  since all witness.

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  mustang

  "...they just are all pretending and are not honest."
  Pathofthorns

  You are so right, PoT.

  "Esse quam videri." To be, rather than to seem. This was the motto
  of a school that I attended. I decided that this was profound and meaningful. As my personality surfaced further & further through the JW conditioning, I repeated "Esse quam videri" over and over in my mind.

  Ultimately, the motto won out.

  Mustang

  PS. Good to see you, Worf.
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  GOSSIP In the Kingdom Hall

  by Sunflower1982 in

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  the overwhelming amount of gossip that circulated through my kingdom hall was a major factor in my decision to stop attending meetings.

  every meeting, every day of field service, and every gathering was plagued with vicious rumors that people told to keep themselves entertained.

  surprisingly, the pioneers and elder's wives were the worst of everyone.

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  mustang

  De-defintely. After I was long gone (10 years or so) I woke up to
  the fact that my father was running down some poor soul that I HAD NEVER MET!!! (I only half listened an by this time a rather different crowd had wandered into the area.) Drone on, drone, drone on. I got a lecture to beat Hell when I told him this was unscriptural and unpleasant.

  Mustang
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  Do JW's do a woldwide preaching work?

  by sleepy in

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  do jw's do a woldwide preaching work?.

  the simple answer is no.. so many witnesses are blind to this obvious point , and still believe god will bring judgemnet to all mankind on the basis of the preaching done by jehovahs witnesses.. realise this jehovahs witnesses,.

  china pop.1 300 000 000. india pop.1 000 000 000. indonesia pop.

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  mustang

  I misspelled it and my spell checker thought it was a 'World-wide PARCHING work'. Must be those prophecies about 'pouring out scourging trumpets' in 1926 conventions or something. Hey, they aren't doing that very well either!!!

  Mustang
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  The WT & Indisputable FACTS - WT Style

  by JT in

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  mustang

  Thanks for the warning, Francois. I've been meaning to pick up a copy of "Broca's Brain" & check out the context of his famous commentary on 1914. On second thought, maybe it is safer than pills.

  
  Mustang