Has anyone ever been DF'd for not taking baths? or for being a nut-case???
Mustang
Inquiring Minds Wanna Know.... class
i think i may have a potential problem on my hand.
over the last year or so, i've been attempting to go the slow fade route with the jw religion.
for the most part i've succeded, as my significant decrease in jw related activities has been greeted only by brief "pep talks" by my parents at worse.
Has anyone ever been DF'd for not taking baths? or for being a nut-case???
Mustang
Inquiring Minds Wanna Know.... class
i think i may have a potential problem on my hand.
over the last year or so, i've been attempting to go the slow fade route with the jw religion.
for the most part i've succeded, as my significant decrease in jw related activities has been greeted only by brief "pep talks" by my parents at worse.
Everybody has had good thoughts (one in particular, later).
However, be careful NOT to have these conversations with TWO of the blackbirds in suits. Get real sick or something if that happens. Leave RIGHT NOW IF TWO OF THEM CONFRONT YOU.
SAY NOTHING or as little as possible: I did that, after quitting pIONEERING for years. I just listened, shrugged, nodded and SAID NOTHING!!!! You can do that until they dont know what to do.
"Anyway, do NOT tell them what you really think. Either try the above, or just sit there and say "yes sir, no sir, three bags full"....and just continue on the way you are. In two years you'll be out of there and that'll be that." I did it for longer than two years.
(I was actually threatened by a rough, soon-to-be Elder. I just shrugged, "took it in stride" and left town about a year later. I "got rid of" them!!!)
Work "works" wonders. I went on NIGHT SHIFT!!! Gee, you might as well take me off the TMS. I had just moved several thousand miles. I moved again after going on night shift
CREATIVE APPROACHES:
mann377s approach IS ONE FOR THE BOOKS. I have to hand it to him. If thats what it takes...
Along those lines:
The "Ive been stumbled" routine is a good thought. Ive wondered about doing that one. Tell him that its "too dangerous to reveal anything, it will get someone in trouble" and that "everybody in authority is just plain vindictive and all are afraid of them". If he pushes it, tell him its one of the Elders. Then clam up tight!! If he really gets on your case, tell him its him!!! That could be interesting.
I have thought in recent years (been 30 years since I went through what you are doing) about answering them with something totally off the subject and never going back to their conversation train. I do really technical stuff, so I would ask them how to design a "switch mode regulator", for instance. (Make sure your inquisitor IS a wINDOW wASHER and not a Design Engineer, for instance.) Be sure to talk about something they have no clue about. They will eventually give up on you, but perhaps write you off as LOONY Just do NOT GIVE THEM A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
"I need a new stereo; how about a loan"? I think this one is under used. So, you endure the lecture on materialism. "OK, got it. Now about that loan..."
Mustang
Clam Up class
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i just got back from newport beach, where i had laser surgery on my eyes.
since the 5th grade, i have had to wear glasses.
each year my eyes have have needed a new prescription for stronger glasses into my 30's.
Yes, Finn,
That's our rich set for you. Newport has a wonderful Xmas parade of boats all decked out with light-shows. Worth seeing.
After my surgery (different from yours, but they're both miraculous for my money; uhh, insurance got mine: I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT COST!!!) I really could SEE (pun accepted) the possibility of the BIONIC age!!
Mustang
i just got back from newport beach, where i had laser surgery on my eyes.
since the 5th grade, i have had to wear glasses.
each year my eyes have have needed a new prescription for stronger glasses into my 30's.
Gee Scully,
The cataract surgery didnt seem so bad from where I was: strapped down on the Operating Table!!!
Actually the first one was trouble and had to have additional stitches on a second emergency pass. The second one was like: when is it going to hurt?? Hey, we're DONE!!!!
And like Laser Surgery (so I hear; I can't have that done) it IS A MIRACLE!!!
Finnrot: I had mine done at a good CATHOLIC HOSPITAL about 10 miles from yours.
Mustang
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has anyone read the latest article in sept km & 9/15 wt on the the snares of e-mail & internet?edited by - deli king on 20 august 2002 21:16:30.
{Bear in mind that our heavenly father has an appointed channel of communication, "the faithful slave and discreet slave." That "slave" has the responsibility to determine what information is made available to the household of faith, as well as the "proper time."}
Hmmm....
The FDS doesn't have as much "bandwidth", so that must be the "narrow & cramped path" as compared to the Internet, which is "broad & spacious".
Yup, ya just gotta know your interpretations, Mike.
Mustang
Edited by - mustang on 21 August 2002 2:16:18
the bubble factor in being a witness
about two days ago after i had the pleasure of listening to my housemate verbally pound a couple of unlucky witnesses who knocked on our door.
i was sitting in my easy chair this evening eating a piece of apple pie and was struck by this overwhelming revelation, almost an epiphany.
So right, MC!!!!
I recently was talking to my "stepmother"; she was considering a SEPARATION from my father.
I said talk to someone who knows DIVORCE law & procedures, so she got a lawyers advice: do it the way you plan & you lose your rights!!!
"Well, thats what I gotta do for the organization!!!
What are you going to do for yourself??? OK, talk to someone local who is familiar with divorce procedure. OH, DOH!!! NONE of these people know diddly about that!!! Oops.
Well, it got "circular" after that, so I gave up. How can you deal with the walking BRAINDEAD???
Mustang
Thats when it sunk home Class
lets post lessons we have learned:.
i've learned that no matter how much i care, some people are just assholes.. .
i've learned that it takes years to build up trust, and only suspicion, not proof, to destroy it..
I've learned that most JW's can be dealt with and will eventually go away; that is, UNLESS they are a fanatical, overzealous relative.
Mustang
asking for my parents.
i prided myself on my politeness as the door was slammed shut right almost into his nose.
this same elder was stood there looking like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, the next door neighbour though told me a story about him recently and her threat to knock him off his ladder.
Good show, Celt. I'm installing camera's and an intecom for such occasions...
Mustang
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asking for my parents.
i prided myself on my politeness as the door was slammed shut right almost into his nose.
this same elder was stood there looking like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, the next door neighbour though told me a story about him recently and her threat to knock him off his ladder.
Good show, Celt. I'm installing camera's and an intecom for such occasions...
Mustang
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this might have been posted before, but here we go:dear randy, the following press release will help you to see the reason why i asked for british citizens to write to their mps and tell their mps to contact mrs clark: .
helen clark member of parliament for peterborough.
for immediate use house of commons 15.07.02 .
Please remind the MP's that THESE PEOPLE DON'T VOTE!!!!
That makes them POLITICALLY hard to offend!!! They are not really your constituents.
Mustang
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