for those of you who have an interest in jw history, and have studied it, what do you see as the similiarities and differences between russell and rutherford.
now, i am not looking for superficial answers like, they were both full of shit.
i am looking for some content here.
I was called a "Russellite" at someone's door, but since Russell never lived to hear the name Jehovah's Witnesses and Rutherford purged all Russell influence, "Rutherfordite" would be more accurate.
I would say that Rutherford is the epitome of the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely". I don't believe that Russell exuded so much evil.
Mustang
do they still make family movies?
it look like things that get produced these days by holyywood filled with f word, sex, violence, drug use and hurling.
no movies hardly to take your kids to or that a christian can watch.
Comforter,
Your exaltation of ignorance is a stumbling block and a disgrace.
Mustang
Edited by - mustang on 12 October 2002 22:42:52
do they still make family movies?
it look like things that get produced these days by holyywood filled with f word, sex, violence, drug use and hurling.
no movies hardly to take your kids to or that a christian can watch.
Comforter,
Your proud and showy display of ignorance detracts from your message. If you were or are a JW, you would be counseled as a really poor example.
Mustang
i brought this up during the beginnings of the flame war we just encountered and it got overlooked.
for all of you who follow the bible/or not.
luke 9.
Tolerance? Would it ever break out in Brooklyn?
Remember: the JW doctrine of INTERFAITH states that Interfaith is evil.
Mustang
the gb of jws, really teach that they should be obeyed even above god.
i know this isnt a secret to most of us but, i thought about how blatant they are.
when gb teaches about the governments, they tell their flock to be obedient as long as it doesnt conflict with jahs laws.
I'll watch over my own soul, thank you.
Cutting out the extra "middle man" to God is a good idea. Good point, guy.
Mustang
for those of you who have an interest in jw history, and have studied it, what do you see as the similiarities and differences between russell and rutherford.
now, i am not looking for superficial answers like, they were both full of shit.
i am looking for some content here.
I go with Prisca & SS on them: genuine vs. opportunist.
"Rutherford, not Russell, was the true founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses."
Right; there are Russell followers who survive to this day. However, early JWs were called Russellites. Actually, it is the case that JWs should properly be called "Rutherfordites".
Mustang
you know they read this.
you know they love it when we fight.
you know we feed directly into their twisted logic that they have love and we dont....when we fight and hurt each other its like turning on all the lights during a blitz...the enemy can see where you are and can destroy you.
Yep, jimbob.
So the critter that comes along to UNIFY this board must be from his father in Brooklyn. He gets sent packing back home.
Mustang
Edited by - mustang on 10 October 2002 19:22:36
this information is directed to those of you who are more knowledgable on this subject.
i received the following in an email today and wanted to see if anyone else heard of this information and if they believe it's valid.
>the us supported bin laden and the taliban for years,.
That "conspiracy theory" sounds good at first (they all do), but had some wrong info. It doesn't take 10 billion to do a study. I've worked with oil people and they would get a lot of REAL ACTION for that kind of $'s. So, truncate by 4 or 5 zero's. You can spend more, but there is no need unless you are ready to actually start.
UNOCAL has it's own problems & drops out:
"Citing low oil prices, concerns over Osama bin Laden, and pressure from women's groups, Unocal withdraws from Afghan pipeline consortium. Unocal also announces a 40 percent drop in capital spending for 1999 because of low oil prices."
This is more real, but not as glamorous as the "feel good" tabloid front-page stuff.
Other reasoning is also cockeyed, as 151 points out.
Ever done any Engineering? We sit around, dream up these plans, submit them, fail to get budget approval and file them. Then somebody 10 years later someone comes running down the hall yelling, "where is it?"!!!! Out come the plans. Events change and re-shape things. A plan that got shelved in one set of circumstances will get pulled out, dusted off and re-used in another. We make necessary changes "on-the-fly".
And like it or not, dusting off that old plan would stabilize Afghanistan and make it a going concern. If you have to "nation-build", do it so everybody gets some benefit.
BTW, if George W. is smart he will do it for yet another reason. It is a better trap for that gang of terrorists than stirring up Iraq would be. Use the oil project for bait!!! Those former "goons of Afghanistan" can't let it be a successful project without taking a shot at it, literally.
Mustang
i'd like to inject a note of sanity into this wasp's nest of disgusting apostate vermin.
between all the bickering and backbiting, you have, as the scriptures foretold, not noticed that the day is upon you.
already it is the auspicious month of october.
Appears 2 B KNOW_YOU = YOU_KNORR =DUNCAN. Read closely; this has been going on for over 2 years.
that some people seem to think they are the authority on everything and feel like they should always get the last word.
i try not to get involved in the flaming that goes on around here by checking my ego at the door and thats not the reason for this post anyway, but it's my experience that all of, without exception, jw are like this.
the perceived arrogance that they alone are in possession of the only truth seems to compell them to keep an argument going even when they are clearly on the losing side so that they can be sure to get the last word in.
"With that in mind I ask the board, do you sometimes feel like you just have to be the whose right.....the one who has to have the last word. Further, do you think this is a residual attitude left over from being members of the borg subject to the authority of the WT heirarchy who consistently demonstrated the same attitude?"
Of course, Out. With all that "we're right, they're wrong" dogma pounded into their skulls 5 meetings a week for years, they have to BE RIGHT. That means they will always have the last word. That is how Dubs see it. Somebody mentioned the "common heritage"; it does carry on.
