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  Even if its not the truth its still the best way of life!

  by mtsgrad in

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  complete the following:.

  even if its not the truth...... .

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  ... I WAS stuck with it

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  The Whole World Has Gone After Him

  by snowbird in

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  why the worldwide fascination with this man?.

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  sylvia.

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  But everyone can be at least thankful that there's someone entering the White House with some brains between his ears.

  And practically the ONLY gentleman in the entire Election, where the female participants were just as rabid as the males. Equality has been achieved on many levels.

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  The Whole World Has Gone After Him

  by snowbird in

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  why the worldwide fascination with this man?.

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  sylvia.

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  I've just never seen anything like it.

  Remember "Ich bin einer Berliner" ? JFK had it: it's called charisma. Part of it is being relaxed "under fire"; that's called poise.

  We'll learn more as the drama unfolds.

  Mustang
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  Muslim misconceptions?

  by John Doe in

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  yea or nea?

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  http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html.

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  Criticizing Islam has been found to be unhealthy.

  However, it needs to be noted that here is a fundamental difference: this, the United States, is a nation of critics, but we have been taught tolerance. We have finely tuned the coexistence of dissimilar peoples, in that manner. That is to say, contrasting criticism with tolerance.

  This has not been achieved by the peoples under the Islamic codes.

  That is the nature of the American experience: a blending of different ideologies and people.

  But, we remain a nation of critics. If a person cannot tolerate criticism, they need to think twice about coming here. That sign needs to be posted on the door. And it is: see the First Amendment, quoted below. You are supposed to study this and encounter it on your way to US Citizenship.

  Further, please note the emphasis on SUBMISSION: it is the goal of the Islamic to bring all others under SUBMISSION.

  BTW: this is technically, and in the long run ILLEGAL in the USA. Our government is established to prevent the mixing of a religious Theocracy into the Secular realm. To that end, note the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses of the First Amendment to the Constitution:

  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

  Theocracy is essentially illegal in the USA. Your coming here is OK: but park your Theocracy at the door. If you've got to have Theocracy, you need to return to whence you came.

  If you can't stand some criticism, and temper that with tolerance, when you criticize, then it looks like this is not a country for you.

  We have to consider, that the USA may not be suitable for all comers.

  Naturalized citizens have to learn these things, i.e. what we call Civics Lessons.

  As an aside, isn't it amazing that the USA spawned that Theocracy, the WTS?

  That old 50's ("?) quote that showed that WTS yearned to be able to take the law into its own hands (stone apostates?) still floors me.

  Mustang
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  Escape From Jonestown

  by sacolton in

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  thirty years ago, 900 people died by murder and suicide.

  only a few survived.

  now, cnn special correspondent soledad o'brien reports on their untold stories as "cnn presents: escape from jonestown.

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  there were two guys at the front gates with guns (machine guns? rifles?)

  I've been overseas and seen assault troops in airports; same thing in a Mexican bank, once. I'm OK w/ that. But when I go to a Church and see armed storm troopers as greeters, my first thought is 'where's mine?'; second thought is 'clear out'.

  Maybe we did get off light as JW's

  Mustang
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  Muslim misconceptions?

  by John Doe in

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  http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html.

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  Additionally, this subject is not about ancient customs.

  R U sure? Christianity is just past its second millenium; Islam is at about 1400 years. And don't count Judaism out: it is passing three milleniums and can easily be invoked in such a potentially far-reaching discussion.

  I found it useful to delve into HG Wells commentary. That harks back ~ 100 years. His comparison of all of the above but being one century old makes a useful baseline.

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  Is my life reaching to a dead end?I need a way out...

  by justhuman in

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  i just don't know what to do...it seems that i have been carrying this burden since i was born.

  and the burden is to be raised and live for 33 years in the most mind destructive cult the watchtower.

  after i have been disfellowshiped 2 years ago(yes my wife turned me to the "loving"elders for apostasy)i left home.

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  She asked you back: I note that there are children. I would guess that she msisied you or that it was getting impractical to not have you around, at the least.

  But, she has turned on you: this is Mental Cruelty and Intentional Infliction of Mental Distress. These are Causes of Action for Civil proceedings in this country. Your legal customs may differ, but I suspect they are close. This is not for you to use against her, nor is this legal advice. This is FOR YOUR INFORMATION to assess your position.

  If she wanted you back, you obeyed. You are being Harrassed and you take it. You have proven that you can go out and away and won't die.

  She DOESN'T HOLD ALL THE CARDS. You can play the Subjection card.

  Worst case scenario: she rebels and won't hear it, the eLDER's won't reason with her and rather advise her about "Spiritual Endangerment".

  Then, things would soon face Divorce. You could play that card or she could, depending on how serious she is about having the upper hand.

  There you have it: you can lead a life of quiet frustration and desperation (salvaging things this way but being miserable) or perhaps equalize matters and achieve a peaceful but imperfect marriage or just make an end of it.

  Three possible outcomes and you can be at the helm.

  Mustang
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  Is my life reaching to a dead end?I need a way out...

  by justhuman in

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  i just don't know what to do...it seems that i have been carrying this burden since i was born.

  and the burden is to be raised and live for 33 years in the most mind destructive cult the watchtower.

  after i have been disfellowshiped 2 years ago(yes my wife turned me to the "loving"elders for apostasy)i left home.

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  Apostates also have the Make Sure of All Things (ancient technology):

  Now here is a zinger, under Children of Christians Highly Favored:

  1 Cor. 7:14 "The unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would really be unclean, but now they are holy."

  Christian Duties of the Wife

  I Peter 3:1-5 KJV

  Likewise, ye wives, [be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

  While they behold your chaste conversation [coupled] with fear.

  Whose adorning let it not be that outward [adorning] of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

  But [let it be] the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, [even the ornament] of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

  For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

  Col. 3:18

  Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

  Apostates w/ Concordances, WT concordance, keyed to the NWT, no less, bring you SCRIPTURES about the woman and her position in the congregations:

  Proverbs 19:13 RSV

  A foolish son is ruin to his father, and a wife's quarreling is a continual dripping of rain.

  Proverbs 27:15 RSV

  A continual dripping on a rainy day and a contentious woman are alike;

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  Peter3:1)

  In like manner, YOU wives, be in subjection to YOUR own husbands, in order that, if any are not obedient to the word, they may be won without a word through the conduct of [their] wives,

  (repeating Oompa)

  Even an apostate husband, is a husband and has biblically noted dues. Wives have been counseled on how to win back UBM's: UnBelieving Mates. That's you!!!

  There are more than enough Scriptures to make your point. Complaining to the eLDER's is a sword that "cuts both ways". A gentle reminder of that might be in order.

  Mustang
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  Muslim misconceptions?

  by John Doe in

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  http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html.

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  How many on this thread have checked out the Muslim Singles site that is ad-stalking us

  Mustang
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  Muslim misconceptions?

  by John Doe in

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  http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html.

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  Consider the URL:

  http://www.submission.org/women/mis.html

  Notice the first sentence on the page:

  There are widespread erroneous misconception about the status of women in Islam (Submission.)

  Further along, another sentence declares:

  In this presentation we will try to clarify the position of the true Islam (Submission) on the status of women.

  Notice the emphasis on SUBMISSION. There is little doubt where this Philosophy is heading.

  The question is: will this Philosophy run amuck, driven by radical adherents? or will it coexist, as Americans have been culturally taught to do? How will its adherents handle INTEGRATION, the requirement of another Philosophy?

  Mustang