Posts by extractor

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Random thoughts about the organization. In 20 years.....

by stuckinamovement in

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many people will scoff at the thought that the org will collapse.

i agree that it will never collapse but the crumbling has begun.

think about the following.....they have a serious lack of potential future leaders.

What could trigger a large proportion of JWs at once that this religion is a scam

by Mr Facts in

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i am just thinking if there could ever be anything that would raise consciousness in the minds of millions of jws that this a completely hoax.

what could spark millions of them at once, any thoughts?..

Subconsciencely at least, the internet is still a new & wild place for anyone who wasn't born with it (25 & older?). Eventually the 'net will simply be what the human race does. A new JW study will be told, "Now, here are your approved websites" and they'll go, "Are you nuts?"

Anyone who types "Jehovah's Witness" in a Google box will know what it is in 5 minutes.

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You may be a jw if.....

by just Ron in

you may be a jw ........if you spent last saturday traped in a car with at least 4 other people you may be a jw.. if you have sat through a sheparding call where you were told you are unworthy you may be a jw.. if you have alienated your worldly relatives with your preaching you may be a jw.. if you have ticked some one of buy knocking on their door on one of their religous holidays you may be a jw.. if you think the governing body is goods direct channel you may be a jw.. if you have no clue when this system is going to end you may be a jw.. .

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ron.

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...you feel smug arrogance when you think of others at Armaggedon, and quiet terror when you think of yourself at the same event.

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I can't believe it, but a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

by Knowsnothing in

it's true.

last night, a kid got marked for having worldy friends.

the usual no friendship with the world texts made its way in.

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I agree Billy. They're shooting themselves in the foot. It's sad and ugly to watch but part of me wants to say, "Keep shooting!" How long until that "marked" kid is joining us here?

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Letter About Meeting Disruptions

by Bangalore in

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"In the event a disturber physically attacks someone, that one has the right to defend himself from harm."

Wait a minute... doesn't the military do that for our country?

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FAQ "Do you believe that [Jehovah's Witnesses] are the only ones who will be saved?"

by wannabefree in

the spin from from www.jw-media.org.

do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?no.

many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovahs witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.

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I was meeting with some JWs (actually trying to get them out) and I wanted to see if they would lie to me so I asked, "Will the JW be the only ones spared at Agdn?" They said, "No. We're not so bold as to think we're the only one's who have it right. We think there are some other groups that probably have it right also."

Question answered: Yes, they will lie to me.

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How do the Jehovah's Witnesses understand the narrative of the Bible/themselves?

by Aaron Eldridge in

i'm trying to get my head around a basic overview of how the jehovah's witnesses understand the narrative flow of scripture and their own history within that.

to me this provides a good general framework from which most of their theology flows.

this is a brief sketch that i have done off the top of my head.

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Help. According to Watchtower nonsense Jesus was Michael, Man, then Michael again (currently)? Was he also the Son in all 3 incarnations?

(I feel stupid even having to write such twaddle.)

Thanks

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Does anybody still believe in God and the Bible?

by tornapart in

i just want to know out of interest how many here still believe in god and christ and that the bible is god's word.

my faith in the wts is gone but i still love god and his son.

i've noticed that many here have lost their faith in god as well as the wts.

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If someone was giving me chocolate ice cream for years, but was secretly mixing in dog crap, I'd want to know what real chocolate ice cream tasted like...sans the K-9 poo.

"I want to educate former members that spirituality is not about black and white thinking or having blind faith in absolutes. The essence of faith is not having all the answers but trusting that there is goodness and truth, and that God exists. I consider it a tremendous setback if a person leaves a destructive cult and feels he must abandon or denigrate the religious part of his authentic identity to do so." - Steve Hassan "Releasing the Bonds" pg.183

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'Where else is there to go'? Thoughts I had this morning--and evening...

by sd-7 in

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i was just thinking of something this morning.

when presented with the possibility that the witnesses could be wrong, the typical response is 'where else is there to go?

' in short, 'if not us, who?

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I once read, "No one has ever read the Bible, come to the JW set of doctrines, and then set out to find a group that shares those beliefs." This is true because it is impossible to come to the JW set of doctrines by reading the Bible alone.

"Jehovah's Organization"? Who says he actually has one? Oh ya, the "Organization".

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A reality test for Jehovah's Witnesses that really seems to work

by Terry in

i admit to a fondness for "factoids".

little snippets of information.

statistics.

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Yea, a positive thread!

Look at pollution. In the 70's virtually every body of water along the eastern seaboard was very contaminated. Now you can swim in almost all of them. I also remember trash lining the roads everywhere because we all treated the world like a trash dump. Remember the deadly hole in the ozone layer? Closed up! Oh ya, and that country that used to have "whites only" water fountains now has a black president.