Posts by XandersEvilTwin

No, not really. It was the extreme I am commenting on. Grounding is a more emotionally tied punishment, though. I guess it seemed more hurtful to me than anything physical, but then, I've always been something of a...errr....sensitive? kind of guy.

Personally, IMHO, the ideal would be for the child to have enough respect for the parent that the only discipline needed would be simply telling them that what they've done disappointed you.

I imagine it's very hard to get there, though.

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"My Child is Dead"

by Lee Elder in

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this morning we published a very moving story written by a jehovah's witness whose 15-year-old son died supporting the watchtower's society blood policy.

to the best of my knowledge, this is the first time a jw parent has gathered up the courage to face down this monstrous policy after losing their child.

this is a very special person indeed and when we finally gather enough of these folks together and set them in front of the right attorney, the wts will be in for some serious litigation.. at present mary is in the midst of divorce from her jw husband and nailing down a custody agreement, so the identity of her and her son must remain anonymous.

XandersEvilTwin

I understand what you are saying Hawk, but, really, would the first hospital's following procedure in overriding the kids wishes or not following it have made any difference at all if the kid didn't TELL them 'no blood'?

Obviously, then, the first guilty party was the WTBTS for, without their brainwashing, none of the other events that led to his death could have occurred.

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Chinese Astrology - What Animal Are You?

by MissyMoesGhost in

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last night i was chatting with introspection and we breifly discussed chinese astrology.

i know a bit about it... .

look up your sign here -- and remember chinese astrology starts with the month february.

XandersEvilTwin

And, by Chinese astrology reconning, my elemental sign is:

Those of you born under the influence of the Chinese Astrology Element of Earth are wise, serene and prudent, firmly rooted in your morals, ethics and responsibilities. Led by logic rather than emotion, you seek to plan your life as far out in advance as possible, to expect the unexpected and control your destiny down to the last detail. Your disciplined reserve -- which can come across as true grace if you work it right -- garners you respect and admiration.

You're so bound by logic and dependent upon controlling your situation that you have a fear of the unknown. Consequently, you question your instincts, distrusting even your most cherished dreams and seeing your whims as frivolous distractions. Don't be a stick in the mud, Earth Signs; share your wisdom and your peace of mind with a needy world.

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Chinese Astrology - What Animal Are You?

by MissyMoesGhost in

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last night i was chatting with introspection and we breifly discussed chinese astrology.

i know a bit about it... .

look up your sign here -- and remember chinese astrology starts with the month february.

XandersEvilTwin

PERSONALITY PROFILE: Stylish, outspoken, willful and athletic. Chinese parents would despair if a daughter was born in a Horse year -- they knew she'd be hard to marry off.

POINTS OF PRIDE: Your passion is inspiring, and you attract many friends. Your adaptable skills ensure you'll dominate any field you enter.
WEAK SIDE: Restless Horses bore easily and fall in love passionately -- and often. You'll give up everything for love.
LOVE MATCH: Tiger, Dog or Sheep.

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How Do You Discipline YOUR Kids?

by MrMoe in

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curious... how do you discipline your children and why?

spank or not to spank?

are your kids brats (and be honest here.).

XandersEvilTwin

Well, as a (mostly) youngin, I can only comment on the fresh memories of my own youth. My parents did both - grounding and spanking.

I know I was spanked a lot. Can't remember particlar incidents, but I know it must have happened.

To this day, however, I can remember a 9-week stretch in which I was grounded from EVERYTHING. No TV, no computer, no having friends over or going to parties. NOTHING. Why, you might ask? Well, see, I got a 'C' on a report card. Yup, in my parents house, when you got a 'C', you were grounded from EVERYTHING until you brought it up to an 'A' (the interim reports were good enough to ground you for the remaining 4-1/2 weeks if they had a 'C' on them, too, but not good enought to unground if an 'A' was on them...) Weren't allowed to do anything but study...

So, I dunno, which form of discipline is better in the long term? I obviously learned from being spanked, and probably hated it at the time, but I don't remember any particular incident with crystal clarity a decade later.

Honestly, I think the emotional abuse parents inflict in grounding (IE., telling their child in no uncertain way that their accomplishments or behavior is more important than they are as a person) leaves a much more lasting scar than moderate physical punishment.

Perhaps 'grounding' in moderation, too? Not sure how much effect that would have on a modern kid, though. Cut out any form of entertainment, and they will find another just as interesting. Cut out ALL entertainment, though....

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We Are All Spolied

by MrMoe in

this is a continuation of a subject i broached on another thread.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30556&site=3.

"i don't bi*ch about my jw childhood.

i never have regrets.

XandersEvilTwin

An interesting topic that is along these lines is NAFTA - the agreement that would allow no taxation between US<->Mexico trading. Many complained that this was bad for the US because it meant large companies here would move their factories to Mexico where labor was cheaper.

And, in the short term, they are right.

But, overall, what IS better for the US? More lower-wage jobs for the short term here? Or, long-term, the possibility of building an actual 1st-world country on our southern border?

Again, throwing money at the problem won't help. Third world countries don't need money. They need to be willing to modernize, and the 1st-world countries need to be willing to help (IE., invest in them).

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We Are All Spolied

by MrMoe in

this is a continuation of a subject i broached on another thread.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30556&site=3.

"i don't bi*ch about my jw childhood.

i never have regrets.

XandersEvilTwin

They are stuck in a vicious cycle of death due to their culture not having changed along with the rest of the industialized world

That is the biggest problem in much of the third world. When industrialization started, they wanted no part of it. For religious or cultural reasons, or just plain poor leadership, they fell behind the curve.

And, once you fall behind THAT curve, it becomes harder and harder to catch up. Only, their cultural/religious/leadership continues to teach industrialization is evil - indeed, many Americans seem to be of the same opinion industrialization is harmful.

Well, without it, look where we'd be. Industry makes jobs. Jobs make money. Money makes commerce (which can make jobs on its own). The US is very much a commercialized nation now (with all its inherent instability), but third word countries have, for a large part, never even become industrialized.

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We Are All Spolied

by MrMoe in

this is a continuation of a subject i broached on another thread.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30556&site=3.

"i don't bi*ch about my jw childhood.

i never have regrets.

XandersEvilTwin

My point, slip, was that "were the food is" moves around throughout human history. So, why should we bemoan that in this early part of the 21st century the wealth is in the US, Britain, etc., the 'western world'. It won't stay that way for long, it never does.

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Are you socially retarded? - For the newbies

by Billygoat in

don't let this title startle you.

i'm not starting a flame war.

this is something that i've thought a lot about since i have two dogs.

XandersEvilTwin

Billy:

No reason in particular, it just seems we have different opinions on many issues. Which is also no surprise, perhaps I just have weird opinions.