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  Worldy Compassion & Generosity

  by pettygrudger in

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  last friday, one of our employees' home burned to the ground, killing all 3 of his children.

  i began the process of taking up a collection, buying the card, etc.

  all of us were shocked to the core for this man's tragedy and suffering.

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  I agree, the charity that people show to others is pretty amazing at times. Yes, we humans are basically selfish beings, and most of that help is given from people's 'extra' time/money from the most part (though not always!), it demonstrates that the nature of people is usually pretty good.

  The flip side is that from an organizational standpoint, being a JW allows a person to be extremely selfish and feel good about themselves - as long as they're putting in the FS hours nothing else is required. I know it has been hard for me to pull myself out of that into an attitude of helping others in 'real' ways, ways that put food and shelter over their heads, or improve their health/quality of life. Not passing by all of those places taking donations for things. Not that I drop into every one of them, but it feels good to help out.
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  JW Joke on Jay Leno

  by email in

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  yesterday night jay leno made a joke on jws.. .

  he said that "al qaeda and osama bin laden's plan is to convert every american to islam or they will face severe consequences... and you thought jehovah witnesses were pushy!

  edited by - email on 19 november 2002 12:19:44.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are pushy?

  Surely not!
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  Did anyone accuse you of being materialistic?

  by freedom96 in

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  these days, it takes a lot of money to make ends meet.

  i live in southern california, and it takes even more.

  let alone if one wants to get ahead in life.. in order to do that, either one needs schooling, or must own their own business.

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  To the average dub, a person is materialistic if they are richer than we are!

  You nailed it Ozzie, it's the same everywhere. Jealousy was the rule of the day. How dare you own something nicer than what I have. The 'materialistic' label was a really convienent one to throw about whenever someone wanted to nitpick at you.
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  new service report (upturn)

  by whatiloveaboutwater in

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  has anyone seen the new figures in the jan 1st watchtower - i have.

  what do you think about them?.

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  link, yes, if a baptised JW does NOT turn in time on a slip of paper, they are not counted as a 'publisher' for that month. So indeed, it is true that there are more baptised JWs than the number of publishers reported. On the other hand, you can be counted a publisher and NOT be baptised JW. The WTBTS does not track # of baptised, they track people turning in field service slips.

  Of course, miss reporting time for a month or more and the local elders will be all over you like white on rice. If they think you are a threat (may give you the "Do you feel the F&DS is god's channel on earth?" question as a loyalty test), they will DF you ASAP.

  All that said, I can bet that the elders are leaning on these older people now, trying to get field service reports from them. Saying things like "Surely you talked to someone about Jehovah this month!?" Guilting them into reporting the new minimum required 15 minutes so that the # of publishers counted can be inflated. They may not have felt OK with reporting an hour, but most can be talked into reporting 15 mins.
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  2002 annual report

  by izobcenec in

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  silentlambs has provided the folowing numbers:.

  increase of average publishers:

  usa 3% (last year 1%)

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  Wow Battman, very interesting spin on the numbers. Certainly looks different then the basic 7.9% increase in studies for the year doesn't it?
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  Super Bowl Predictions

  by WildTurkey in

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  im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.

  ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?

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  Damn you dubla - sure rub it in!
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  Super Bowl Predictions

  by WildTurkey in

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  im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.

  ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?

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  I think that they had only won 2 games before the pack blew it in the dome.
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  None of your business

  by JH in

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  being a jehovah witness, did you feel obliged to have a 4 door car?

  once i bought a 2 door car, and everyone was looking at me as if i commited a crime.

  i then reasoned with them saying, "didn't jesus send his deciples by groups of 2?".

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  That was a given, you bought a 2 door and caught hell for it. For awhile we had a SUV and a 2 door 2 seater car, and every once in a while we'd take the car to FS meetings (didn't want to drive yet AGAIN), and boy did we catch hell for it.
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  Talking in public

  by JH in

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  was it natural for you to speak in public, either from door to door, or making talks at the hall.

  for some, it was a real scarry thing to speak in front of a group.

  was that a big load off your back when you quit going to the meetings?

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  I didn't mind speaking, I just hated preparing them.

  Ditto. Hated it with a passion. Would normally wait until the day of the talk to even look at it. Did a few right at the KH during the beginning of the meeting. Even did a public talk the weekend of giving it. Funny thing was, even with the total lack of preperation, and the slam it together nature of them, everybody used to compliment me on how 'well prepared' the talks were. I just smirked inside.

  Of course it doesn't hurt that the material is 2nd grade level crap!
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  Disturbances at Assemblies

  by freedom96 in

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  i remember hearing over and over about how wonderful it was to be gathered together at the assemblies, and how the brotherly love flowed, and everyone got along.. they would comment that where else could you get 10,000 and more people together where there was so much peace and unity.. we were flat out told there was no where that this occured.

  that wordly people could never have that many people together, then riots would happen, fights, drunken idiots etc.. well, i have been to many busines seminars, where there are thousands of people, and they never get out of hand.

  i have been to many concerts with thousands of people there, and they don't get out of hand.. how egotistical these power witnesses are to think they are the only ones that can get along peacefully.. i know there are cases of fights, or something at large events, but there has been things like that at assemblies too.. has anyone here seen fights, or disturbances at assemblies, or large witness gatherings?

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  At assemblies, most JWs are just so bored out of their minds that they are on the verge of being in a coma. That's the real reason there aren't any disturbances.

  LOL! I like that. Yes, they are barely above the coma state, no rowdyness there.

  The funny thing is, I knew of many of the young JW that would become quite rowdy the nights after each assembly day.