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Dear Brothers and Sisters

by JWMAN in

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dear brothers and sisters:.

there is darkness in this world.

many have e-mailed me with concerns and asking for help and advise.

thandrin: I won't go into the details debunking that crap story about the UN 'library card'. There are MANY big threads here that detail WITH PROOF exactly what the WTBTS was doing with the UN, and it wasn't simply for a 'library card'.

For one thing, they had to submit yearly applications to the UN to prove that they were holding up their end of the bargan by publishing UN material. One of their Awake articles in currently on a UN site!

If you are really interesting in knowing the truth, read those threads and don't go into it with pre-concieved ideas.

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Let me help you

by JWMAN in

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calling all lost sheep!

it is not too late.

i have been an observer of this site for some time now.

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What good fight would that be? Has Jehovah asked us to participate in the big "A" now?

If it's dark, turn on a 'new light'

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Let me help you

by JWMAN in

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calling all lost sheep!

it is not too late.

i have been an observer of this site for some time now.

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It's a bird - no it's a plane - no it's JWMAN!!!!!

Ah run for your lives!

Seriously JWMAN, I love how you JW types show up with these 'return to Jehovah' posts. Then when ANYTHING of substance comes up you fall back to the tired "I don't have time" routine. I thought you were here to help. Make time. Or I predict you will fall to the "I'll have to research this and get back to you" routine. Then failing that you'll simply a) fade away and disappear, or b) become Fred Hall II with your little "return to jehovah" one-liners - cause that's all a JW can do - one liners. Get into more substance than that and your pathetic arguments crumble into dust ...

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Depression is a way of life for JW's

by butalbee in

the more i studied, the more i got sucked into being a witness, the more depressed i've become.

i don't want to do anything anymore, i mean what is the sense: the end of days is upon us!

the more i became involved with witnesses, the more i felt that i was loosing a part of myself.

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Hey this one cool cat not depressed </fredism>

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Depression is a way of life for JW's

by butalbee in

the more i studied, the more i got sucked into being a witness, the more depressed i've become.

i don't want to do anything anymore, i mean what is the sense: the end of days is upon us!

the more i became involved with witnesses, the more i felt that i was loosing a part of myself.

NameWithheld

"Why are you hacking such a long time into my eyes until evoking a flame war? "

??????????????

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Depression is a way of life for JW's

by butalbee in

the more i studied, the more i got sucked into being a witness, the more depressed i've become.

i don't want to do anything anymore, i mean what is the sense: the end of days is upon us!

the more i became involved with witnesses, the more i felt that i was loosing a part of myself.

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Watch out, Erich's been hittin the crack pipe again - spouting some 'JW meets Mr Science' dementia he's created. Funny how god is now speaking to Mr Erich instead of the GB in Crooklyn.

Butalbee: I think you've made a wise decision about your man. He must decide what's important in his life, you cannot take a back seat to his religion, nor can he/should he force his way of life upon you. People have had happy mixed marriages w/ JW's in the past - but it's a really tough road and BOTH parties must be willing to deal w/ the major life differences involved. He must respect that you cannot buy into the JW lifestyle, and you will have to tolerate his wacky religion - and it's busybody elders and his busybody family - who will all look down on him for 'marrying outside the lord'. And then once married, try to convert you for the rest of your life.

Good luck!

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Why the bible does'nt make sense to me

by Leander in

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for some odd reason this morning when i woke up the first thing that came into my mind was the suffering and pain that humans deal with on a daily basis.

again i'm not really sure what made me think about that so early in the morning.

(maybe it was a dream i had).

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Interesting posts.

I have only one simple comment I cannot understand about people who beleive that there MUST be a creator - they say there MUST be one because we are here (life exists). Their argument is that since life is so complex, someone/thing HAD to make it.

My question then becomes - who created the creator? It's such a simple question, yet cannot be answered. And I will NOT buy the old tired "he's just always been" argument. That's silly. I'm to beleive that man is SO complex he could not have just 'happened' yet some all-powerful god who would obviously be HUGELY more complex DID in fact "Just happen to have always existed".

Where's the logic in that!?

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What if there was not DFing of apostates?

by YoYoMama in

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i was wondering today.

what if the witnesses did not have a policy of disfellowshipping those that are apostates.

what would the congregations be like?

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That the 'unity' you see is not unity - it's forced uniformness. Speak out of line and "You're outa there!". So just remember that there are MANY JW's who are not there in spirit, but are simply going through the motions so they don't lose their entire social surroundings (friends and family). And MANY who do not see things 'eye-to-eye' with the GB/Elders but just keep their mouths shut for the above reasons.

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Is there Religion after the Watchtower

by clash_city_rockers in

for those wha have left jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the watch tower?

this is just a survey i would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.. 1. do you still believe in a god.

2. have you joined another religion.

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1. Do you still believe in a God

Not so much - at least not one who is behind the 'bible' and other such 'holy' books. That stuff is purely man-made drivel.

2. Have you joined another religion

Hell no!

3. Do you still believe in a bible or a Holy book?

Ditto! ^

4. Are burned out on religion?

You'd better beleive it (or my god will kill you!)

5. Do you trust others who talk about God, Jesus and religious stuff?

Not really. Although I'm sure that many of them do truely beleive what they are saying.

6. For you who still believe in a God is your worship corprate or private?

N/A

Reguarding other Teansindental Matters:
7. Do you believe in truth?

Define 'truth'.

8. Is truth absolute?

Define 'absolute'.

9. Are ethics and morals absolute or relitive and arbratrary?

I'd have to lean towards "relitive and arbratrary" - they are basically set by society at large. Some things that are considered 'ethical' in this society are not so (or were not so) 'ethical' in others.

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Daily Text - Eccl. 3:13

by YoYoMama in

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eccl.

3:13 "every man should eat and indeed drink and see good for all his hard work.

it is the gift of god.".

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"Yes it sounds bad, but is it? Jehovah has given ample time for humans to do what is right."

It sounds bad because it is bad. And he isn't 'allowing' time for humans to do right - he's allowing exponetially more humans to be born thus providing ample MORE time for MORE bad/wicked/evil humans to suffer then die at his hands. If you buy that crock of ***t.