Posts by NameWithheld

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Super Bowl Predictions

by WildTurkey in

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im a huge cowboy fan but i dont think they will make it to the super bowl, damn sure would love to be wrong.

ok here is who i think as of right now pittsburgh stealers and san francisco 49ers and god i hate them both, well thats my pick how about you?

Arg more fodder for dubla! That's the one problem w/ Farve, when he get's off his game, he can make some really lousy decisions - he tries too hard to force balls into places they should go - witness the 4! picks against Tampa. Uggg.

How 'bout M. Vic though? That boy is awesome. 41-0 ... hmmm, could the Falcons go to the big game twice in 4 years?

Edited by - NameWithheld on 25 November 2002 10:42:5

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Make me GAG: WTS website article

by Scully in

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it looks like the article with "those who simply leave the faith are not shunned" has been replaced by this one:.

http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/1988/4/15/article_01.htm.

NameWithheld

Puke. Notice how many "..."'s there were in them quoting the court's ruling? Makes you wonder what they dot dot dotted over. Hmmm. Of course, JWs expect dot dot dots in all quote, probably don't know how to read without them in there.

RF, I wouldn't bet against that - there's no doubt at all in my mind that they would jump at the chance to stone a few apostates!

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses donate organs?

by Binky in

my girfriend read it on her brother's web log.

) now she's all confused.. many thanks.. binky,.

god of fridays and shaving cream afros

NameWithheld

Another don't ask don' tell item with JWs - and will highly dependant on who find out about it and their opinions on it. But you can believe that if an elder gets a bug up his @ss about you being a organ doner he can and will find WT articles to quote at you in an attempt to make you feel guilty about it. On the other hand, if the elders don't care, or don't know, he would be left alone.

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From JW media site - you've got to be kidding!!!!

by NameWithheld in

embalming--is it for christians?

just what is embalming?

why has it been practiced?

NameWithheld

LOL Joy, I forgot aabout that one. Careful though - we know they monitor this site, so we just might see that article show up in a new Asleep mag if one of the writing boys suffers writer's block and needs to meet a deadline. I bet it would slip through the GB 'editing' session if the nurses forgot to change the GB's diapers before that sesion

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2002 Service Year Report

by ignored_one in

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friends

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not sure how well these come out.. .

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NameWithheld

Some year 2000 figures for comparision ...

AvgPubs Baptised
2000 1999

Argentina 118,659 +1% 4,791 5,895
Brazil 506,888 +5% 30,918 43,098
Britain 120,592 -1% 2,731 2,844
Canada 107,742 -1% 2,316 2,467
Columbia 101,390 +5% 7,952 9,782
Congo 103,877 +9% 8,938 12,721
France 112,149 -2% 2,114 2,245
Germany 162,932 -1% 3,497 3,751
Italy 225,748 0 5,668 5,847
Japan 220,538 -1% 4,388 5,343
Mexico 526,913 +2% 27,683 30,622
Nigeria 224,978 +4% 17,435 17,449
Philippines 134,257 +5% 8,924 8,836
Poland 122,575 0 3,741 4,070
Russia 109,223 +7% 10,256 12,341
Ukraine 108,184 +8% 10,306 12,320
US 945,000 0 30,290 32,585
Zambia 103,569 +7% 10,455 11,046

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From JW media site - you've got to be kidding!!!!

by NameWithheld in

embalming--is it for christians?

just what is embalming?

why has it been practiced?

NameWithheld

Embalming--Is It for Christians?
Just what is embalming? Why has it been practiced? Is it for Christians?

This is worse than that "Are cat's for christians?" article - except that one was a joke and this is real!!

Wow. At this level of absolute inane stupidity (JWs need to be told everything) it won't be long before we see this study article ...

Wiping my ass--Is It for Christians?

Edited by - NameWithheld on 22 November 2002 14:26:20

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Better say what they want to hear

by JH in

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did it bother you that you had to make comments that reflected their way of thinking all the time.

wouldn't you have loved to say something completely different from what they expected to hear, when making a comment.

NameWithheld

there are some great debaters (Master Debaters?)

No doubt, there are some great baters (Master Baters?) on this forum too Sorry - couldn't resist!

Edited by - NameWithheld on 22 November 2002 14:20:53

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2002 Service Year Report

by ignored_one in

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friends

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not sure how well these come out.. .

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NameWithheld

This will be a long post, and I'm not sure how it will look (format) but I snagged the 2001 service report from the jw-media web site for comparision.

Population 2001 peak Ratio # bapt Congs Preach hours Avg study Memorial

Alaska	655,000	2,276	288	51	26	354,242	787	4,612
Albania	3,262,000	2,392	1,364	340	54	928,839	4,414	10,683
American Samoa	62,900	171	368	3	2	31,335	154	686
Andorra	65,844	162	406	3	2	24,073	50	266
Angola	12,300,000	46,424	265	4,181	699	10,535,853	96,592	182,709
Anguilla	10,000	38	263		1	9,109	35	160
Antigua	65,952	377	175	9	6	74,909	375	1,090
Argentina	37,000,000	123,619	299	5,222	1,726	23,277,889	78,552	267,759
Armenia	3,344,336	7,001	478	961	48	1,795,071	6,417	18,010
Aruba	91,065	635	143	41	8	91,065	496	2,246
Australia	19,277,104	59,963	321	1,727	768	9,514,957	18,942	111,924
Austria	8,065,166	20,331	397	380	300	3,316,609	7,961	33,566
Azerbaijan	7,748,163	314	24,676	24	1	72,627	355	849
Azores	242,073	536	452	20	15	111,282	399	1,380
Bahamas	255,055	1,446	176	30	26	293,984	1,299	3,940
Bangladesh	129,155,000	105	1,230,048	2	2	18,089	95	229
Barbados	260,490	2,372	110	77	26	353,536	1,433	5,994
Belarus	9,990,000	3,004	3,326	140	33	692,324	2,492	7,550
Belau	19,181	91	211	7	1	23,107	145	377
Belgium	10,263,414	25,025	410	492	379	3,676,694	7,132	45,498
Belize	270,000	1,263	214	61	28	244,224	1,136	5,294
Benin	5,532,000	6,675	829	399	132	1,541,375	10,123	26,704
Bermuda	63,503	444	143	15	5	91,710	245	1,041
Bolivia	8,330,800	17,050	489	1,048	220	4,361,893	22,059	57,385
Bonaire	13,245	59	224	3	1	8,536	61	164
Bosnia & Herzegovina	4,354,911	1,085	4,014	73	13	372,276	738	2,487
Botswana	1,693,970	1,174	1,443	85	32	217,809	1,520	3,882
Brazil	172,816,200	555,145	311	33,555	8,592	91,990,579	543,957	1,442,641
Britain	61,048,120	124,828	489	2,407	1,468	17,900,817	37,645	213,595
Bulgaria	8,329,000	1,210	6,883	81	17	289,727	1,074	3,128
Burkina Faso	10,352,000	1,021	10,139	57	24	276,643	1,524	3,279
Burundi	6,847,000	3,896	1,757	468	54	1,105,788	8,831	14,096
Cambodia	11,168,000	103	108,427	17	2	51,722	284	429
Cameroon	15,292,000	28,587	535	1,350	659	4,971,370	33,675	86,621
Canada	30,919,839	110,818	279	2,030	1,343	18,544,473	32,672	184,846
Cape Verde	427,704	1,496	286	143	26	361,478	2,891	5,974
Cayman Islands	32,000	169	189	1	2	23,822	114	461
Central Afr. Rep.	3,512,000	2,389	1,470	162	56	618,257	4,078	14,392
Chad	8,400,000	598	14,047	43	17	184,891	1,005	4,526
Chile	15,401,952	63,301	243	2,793	709	12,376,473	48,743	156,145
Chuuk	73,221	67	1,093	2	3	31,968	214	756
Colombia	43,070,704	111,477	386	6,911	1,621	22,663,269	153,328	391,634
Comoros	630,000	15	42,000			1,850	12	52
Congo, Dem. Rep. of	51,000,000	120,209	424	7,040	2,851	22,975,453	201,377	592,292
Congo, Rep. of	3,000,000	4,302	697	295	107	1,080,696	13,830	20,258
Cook Islands	14,600	158	92	5	2	26,831	125	364
Costa Rica	3,810,179	19,476	196	504	244	2,703,212	13,756	48,968
Cte dIvoire	16,938,728	6,372	2,658	367	157	1,660,603	12,522	24,645
Croatia	4,381,352	5,428	807	157	68	1,195,048	2,305	10,152
Cuba	11,217,100	87,230	129	3,555	1,294	16,297,115	133,766	184,620
Curaao	136,888	1,377	99	37	20	221,024	1,252	3,674
Cyprus	671,300	1,834	366	57	23	338,872	867	3,485
Czech Republic	10,292,933	15,822	651	326	236	2,252,776	5,658	30,283
Denmark	5,330,020	14,672	363	215	213	2,181,450	3,703	22,571
Dominica	71,794	352	204	6	8	76,263	392	1,123
Dominican Rep.	8,740,000	23,806	367	1,243	356	5,878,997	38,386	89,681
Ecuador	12,879,499	44,604	289	2,999	579	10,054,752	60,850	165,600
El Salvador	6,396,890	28,775	222	1,432	499	4,924,394	25,888	80,363
Equatorial Guinea	487,344	849	574	72	14	207,460	2,028	3,779
Estonia	1,366,723	3,900	350	205	47	744,251	2,653	8,209
Ethiopia	63,500,000	6,330	10,032	398	107	1,657,249	4,154	17,728
Faeroe Islands	45,409	83	547		4	22,242	38	122
Falkland Islands	2,220	5	444		1	718	3	13
Fiji	806,217	2,076	388	75	32	383,731	1,791	7,308
Finland	5,181,115	20,170	257	354	303	2,719,040	6,971	27,843
France	59,453,000	113,994	522	2,393	1,520	16,221,684	28,375	200,621
French Guiana	157,274	1,513	104	53	24	329,636	2,350	5,918
Gabon	1,200,000	2,320	517	211	46	507,895	5,508	8,850
Gambia, The	1,309,000	155	8,445	12	3	56,239	291	491
Georgia	5,018,502	14,874	337	292	136	2,757,684	5,903	30,226
Germany	82,234,128	164,441	500	3,177	2,151	24,131,164	59,474	277,507
Ghana	18,872,553	68,152	277	4,585	1,067	12,461,885	145,637	236,088
Gibraltar	27,033	108	250	1	2	13,959	24	161
Greece	10,539,771	28,005	376	716	395	5,094,612	9,616	46,414
Greenland	56,124	131	428	1	7	27,296	76	262
Grenada	96,000	612	157	9	9	106,174	516	1,445
Guadeloupe	422,000	7,548	56	189	106	1,062,593	5,484	17,754
Guam	154,805	617	251	28	10	166,380	796	2,098
Guatemala	10,300,000	21,260	484	1,199	295	3,969,032	17,663	63,501
Guinea	7,613,870	574	13,265	48	19	192,227	1,253	2,763
Guinea-Bissau	1,213,000	86	14,105	4	3	42,556	339	833
Guyana	777,648	2,290	340	110	37	388,520	2,298	9,404
Haiti	7,300,000	12,265	595	751	215	2,263,102	16,013	64,673
Hawaii	1,211,537	7,490	162	191	98	1,613,738	4,871	18,185
Honduras	6,640,041	13,161	505	742	191	2,750,253	15,058	44,551
Hong Kong	6,600,000	4,742	1,392	174	45	1,190,845	4,257	8,906
Hungary	10,197,119	21,921	465	721	253	3,429,773	10,320	42,185
Iceland	282,849	309	915	8	7	54,691	158	534
India	1,027,015,247	22,917	44,815	1,226	512	3,190,856	14,228	52,725
Indonesia	210,000,000	16,136	13,014	757	368	2,895,595	14,620	36,158
Ireland	5,525,700	4,726	1,169	83	115	907,770	1,540	8,195
Israel	9,360,000	1,206	7,761	68	13	210,029	782	2,587
Italy	57,844,017	228,822	253	5,323	3,016	47,674,171	86,086	412,503
Jamaica	2,502,030	11,059	226	498	195	1,785,223	9,914	37,061
Japan	126,714,000	220,113	576	4,139	3,305	73,324,070	134,769	345,223
Kazakhstan	16,733,227	12,992	1,288	1,191	121	2,628,245	10,774	31,969
Kenya	30,500,000	16,079	1,897	1,511	367	4,475,775	23,883	44,280
Kiribati	78,300	104	753	1	1	25,080	200	436
Korea Republic of	47,676,233	88,239	540	2,761	1,422	34,276,400	52,462	135,098
Kosrae	9,351	18	520		1	7,629	53	95
Kyrgyzstan	4,685,230	3,693	1,269	220	35	626,290	2,436	8,833
Latvia	2,357,600	2,181	1,081	114	31	588,548	2,075	4,515
Lebanon	3,578,036	3,593	996	105	71	561,633	1,675	6,835
Lesotho	2,182,744	2,644	826	258	69	591,889	3,235	7,447
Liberia	3,089,000	3,548	871	422	51	1,162,015	10,695	19,714
Libya	4,992,838	26	192,032			1,636	13	22
Liechtenstein	32,673	49	667		1	5,459	13	96
Lithuania	3,700,000	2,537	1,458	146	30	582,653	1,793	5,863
Luxembourg	511,419	1,811	282	27	32	283,453	661	3,461
Macao	500,000	107	4,673	2	2	35,496	96	249
Macedonia	2,000,000	1,044	1,916	43	15	247,174	669	2,972
Madagascar	15,054,006	11,620	1,296	980	262	2,826,344	25,422	58,937
Madeira	242,603	1,091	222	48	16	165,374	551	2,010
Malawi	10,401,537	49,196	211	4,728	781	9,502,669	38,689	156,462
Malaysia	23,270,000	2,208	10,539	113	48	534,538	2,773	5,824
Mali	11,500,000	194	59,278	9	7	78,925	397	695
Malta	386,350	571	677	18	7	91,793	176	933
Marshall Islands	65,875	226	291	20	4	70,968	573	1,463
Martinique	380,460	4,042	94	91	46	660,160	2,709	8,643
Mauritius	1,160,100	1,382	839	61	21	245,866	1,139	3,372
Mayotte	137,320	55	2,497	3	2	15,069	72	150
Mexico	100,143,610	542,117	185	21,718	11,118	102,888,361	549,449	1,681,880
Moldova	4,264,300	18,370	232	1,123	189	2,595,811	9,480	44,208
Mongolia	2,662,000	36	73,944	2	1	20,850	80	201
Montserrat	3,000	9	333			491	2	27
Mozambique	17,656,153	35,843	493	3,537	854	8,350,940	48,138	147,899
Myanmar	51,100,000	2,984	17,125	146	106	614,734	2,039	7,233
Namibia	1,860,000	1,202	1,547	98	19	203,097	1,174	3,162
Nauru	10,600	9	1,178			424	3	124
Nepal	23,930,000	500	47,860	59	6	97,627	620	1,603
Netherlands	15,987,075	31,455	508	538	417	3,899,398	7,928	52,640
Nevis	10,080	58	174	2	1	11,389	49	157
New Caledonia	212,000	1,546	137	50	22	247,824	1,316	4,373
New Zealand	3,849,000	13,192	292	351	167	2,050,858	5,366	25,639
Nicaragua	5,100,000	15,502	329	930	264	3,246,370	20,802	64,146
Niger	7,490,000	227	32,996	13	11	64,292	348	1,084
Nigeria	123,337,822	245,678	502	14,943	4,457	45,658,593	382,253	639,237
Niue	1,748	26	67		1	4,072	15	56
Norfolk Island	2,085	16	130		1	1,403	3	20
Norway	4,513,000	9,784	461	183	171	1,174,891	2,829	16,351
Pakistan	141,032,351	606	232,727	66	12	134,916	636	2,654
Panama	2,896,855	10,115	286	645	196	1,998,041	10,920	33,235
Papua New Guinea	5,289,406	3,434	1,540	141	52	601,007	3,076	16,645
Paraguay	5,633,359	7,618	739	403	96	1,504,539	7,077	16,625
Peru	26,347,000	78,904	334	5,656	828	21,082,506	106,769	221,083
Philippines	76,000,000	138,430	549	7,257	3,467	26,165,542	92,271	424,306
Pohnpei	41,698	71	587	7	1	19,417	164	461
Poland	38,641,000	124,086	311	3,478	1,769	14,438,033	40,846	235,775
Portugal	9,833,408	47,414	207	1,253	652	7,303,271	18,883	94,465
Puerto Rico	3,800,000	25,132	151	747	331	4,371,348	13,067	59,392
Runion	728,193	2,640	276	68	34	454,468	1,414	5,425
Rodrigues	36,200	37	978	4	1	7,713	35	88
Romania	22,430,570	38,763	579	1,551	560	5,942,209	17,512	86,981
Rota	2,731	9	303		1	2,294	7	44
Russia	146,693,000	120,577	1,217	8,951	1,140	26,409,921	96,650	275,525
Rwanda	8,585,000	9,058	948	1,308	181	2,864,585	18,612	41,854
Saba	1,600	3	533			1,335	13	10
St. Eustatius	2,900	16	181		1	2,273	15	79
St. Helena	4,971	135	37	2	3	11,781	52	301
St. Kitts	31,800	154	206	11	3	34,368	204	574
St. Lucia	138,150	686	201	25	9	144,288	751	2,004
St. Maarten	40,000	294	136	7	3	61,060	298	888
St. Pierre & Miquelon	6,600	20	330		1	3,320	7	28
St. Vincent	111,380	298	374	7	7	69,216	319	962
Saipan	62,392	174	359	6	2	40,643	243	545
Samoa	170,727	401	426	6	8	86,284	306	1,338
San Marino	25,061	181	138	7	2	36,849	69	309
So Tom & Prncipe	154,777	361	429	41	7	117,848	1,177	1,907
Senegal	9,500,000	903	10,520	35	22	275,643	1,357	2,400
Seychelles	80,410	225	357	6	4	39,443	247	601
Sierra Leone	5,426,618	1,052	5,158	76	20	258,034	1,828	5,130
Slovakia	5,402,547	12,263	441	284	170	1,458,538	3,573	23,957
Slovenia	1,990,740	1,859	1,071	55	29	400,329	626	3,247
Solomon Islands	409,042	1,699	241	122	39	371,507	1,815	5,973
South Africa	44,560,644	71,535	623	4,034	1,419	13,753,078	74,455	181,207
Spain	39,513,630	101,500	389	1,461	1,321	18,372,229	26,128	162,754
Sri Lanka	19,238,575	3,432	5,606	247	76	659,858	2,752	9,310
Suriname	445,673	2,042	218	99	38	426,479	2,219	6,550
Swaziland	929,718	2,158	431	132	69	460,530	2,393	6,272
Sweden	8,894,674	22,850	389	368	332	3,182,159	6,949	36,696
Switzerland	7,206,100	17,315	416	313	287	2,399,406	6,104	29,670
Tahiti	219,521	1,715	128	39	26	270,970	1,385	4,960
Taiwan	22,125,000	4,372	5,061	284	61	1,416,197	5,171	10,547
Tajikistan	6,440,732	305	21,117	11	3	59,083	371	1,145
Tanzania	32,844,350	10,524	3,121	1,030	254	2,429,363	13,717	39,509
Thailand	61,878,746	1,941	31,880	80	56	446,814	1,839	4,451
Tinian	3,540	15	236		1	5,791	39	51
Togo	4,735,000	11,927	397	795	189	2,563,629	26,196	49,922
Tokelau	1,700	4	425		1	326	1	18
Tonga	100,283	150	669	21	3	32,830	173	470
Trinidad & Tobago	1,293,800	8,090	160	314	92	1,510,828	8,002	21,970
Turkey	70,000,000	1,621	43,183	81	25	366,828	947	2,857
Turks & Caicos Isls.	18,122	124	146	4	3	20,783	138	410
Tuvalu	9,403	59	159	11	3	8,221	41	144
Uganda	22,000,000	2,721	8,085	267	49	606,711	4,511	9,819
Ukraine	49,291,200	120,028	411	8,702	1,183	22,757,295	75,098	282,358
U.S. of America	279,583,437	979,637	285	27,731	11,582	178,831,678	416,556	2,163,602
Uruguay	3,030,000	10,574	287	374	143	1,477,353	6,943	22,310
Vanuatu	195,000	318	613	14	5	55,159	485	1,052
Venezuela	24,631,900	88,541	278	4,412	1,253	19,749,137	104,503	296,847
Virgin Isls. (Brit.)	17,000	177	96	4	2	35,831	144	630
Virgin Isls. (U.S.)	108,600	668	163	15	9	130,649	547	1,845
Wallis & Futuna Isls.	15,000	74	203	5	1	13,462	81	344
Yap	11,241	25	450		1	10,775	59	151
Yugoslavia, F. R.	10,546,983	4,056	2,600	143	58	930,468	1,858	8,775
Zambia	10,583,914	122,907	86	8,012	2,111	20,395,765	161,015	514,277
Zimbabwe	12,000,000	32,396	370	2,836	961	5,527,714	40,220	73,445
28 Other Lands		9,914		337	161	2,191,378	10,107	25,430
GRAND TOTAL (235 Lands)		6,117,666		263,431	93,154	1,169,082,225	4,921,702	15,374,986

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2002 Service Year Report

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NameWithheld

Met, you or anyone have these stats (as posted above for 2002) for the past few years? The JWStat site just has some of the info, but not the grid that they publish in the WT mags.

Edit to say - 82.7 pubs per congo in the US during 2002, and 84.5 in 2001. Hmmm. Don't know how that compares to previous years though.

Edited by - NameWithheld on 22 November 2002 14:15:3

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not sure how well these come out.. .

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NameWithheld

Interesting observations jws. A good note on that peak number - as we all know the peak is not very meaningful in anyway since it is artifically inflated. This can be true in cases where they have a push to reactivate inactives, for example. Joe Pub hasn't turned in FS time in 2 months, and they get him to report this month (I.E. Aug) and last month's (July) figures - we guess what? He counts as 2 in Aug! That's one way peaks can be inflated.

On that average figure you are talking about, that included all the special, regular and aux pioneers too, so to me that's pretty low average. The normal publisher average # they usually report is for publishers only, with the pioneer figures removed. Last I heard that average was in the 8-9 hour range. It was 10-12 a few years ago (mid 90's).