Posts by Nanoprobe

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

The press will be interested in the stories of the victims and the victims advocates.

Very true, but how much is the general public interested in a cult problem? How much were non-Catholics interested in their sex scandal? They usually think we should just quit and get on with our lives.

Yes, number 1 we want all the world's attention but can we also effect the Rank & File in another manner?

I really believe that the JW's will look for any little thing to reject us. It's important to them to dismiss us, to not think about us, to assume we are lying scum.

Their whole world is at stake if we undermine their faith in the publishing company.

Let's just not play into their hand and make it too easy be called "deceitful apostate"

Hawkaw

on that other post you asked me to get back to you about registered sex offenders who had molested JW kids first. I left my email there for you.

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

Thanks, SYN

I'm just asking that everyone give the idea some serious thought.

We are just a small group and don't have an "already in place" massive PR machine complete with all the "catch words" (Apostate, disgruntled, DF'd, etc) So we have to effect the preception of the JW Rank & File anyway we can. I believe this is our most effective way to do that at this march. Remember we are only going to get a few seconds of Media coverage. #1 of course is the total body count, but I have seen the Dallas press make a small group look like a big group and never mention the actual number to the general public. It depends on the press's attitude toward you.

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

Try this scenario:

There is a book publishing company in Brooklyn that we are going to picket. The company has a strict dress code (like the old EDS or IBMs)

The company is telling all current and prospective employees (and anyone else who will listen) that the picketers are just DISGRUNTLED ex employees. They say the ex employees havent worked for the company in years maybe decades and are just a bunch of losers who cant find other jobs.

But what if the picketers look like they still work for the company or that they just quit last week? It will be harder for the publishing company to smear the picketers and the picketers get the best PR

Hylandr: It's not other people as in Worldly People who are going to judge us on our appearance. No, you're right they don't care what we are wear. But they also don't care what we are do or if we are there or not. It's not their problem it's the JW's problem. We are trying to influence a few other JW's to just look at the facts and not just dismiss us on appearance. And yes, the JW's will do that .

Edited by - nanoprobe on 9 August 2002 9:56:51

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The Compulsion to Confess

by refiners fire in

jw
friends

i have been a compulsive confessor.

do you think its a dub thing?

ive been to elders numerous times about things.

Nanoprobe

I absolutely never confused anything to any elder. My policy was don't tell them anything.

Were you raised a Catholic?

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

Everyone's points are just as valid as mine, but I just think it would be a great PR Ploy if it looked like we had just marched out of the Bethel Complex.

I think it would be confusing to the world and to the press and maybe even mess with the JW Dub's minds a little. Like who are they? Where did they come from? Are they active? Are they in my hall? Is this scandal for real?

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

How can a District Overbeer not come? That's a requirement in your position, isn't it?

Heck, stick the hair under a hat. Wear a GB member mask! Oophs! That advice probably defeats my post, huh?

Sunshine is right we cannot let them just dismiss us with "no wonder they got DF'd". We have to play their game and get past the appearance test

Edited by - nanoprobe on 8 August 2002 18:33:39

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JWZone Thread on Bill Bowen - UPDATED!

by SYN in

yes i know you're all getting p*d off with my jwzone threads, but i couldn't let this one go by!!!!!!

so, i'm just going to embed the thread here and let you guys comment...hehe...some jwzoners are going to get their heads bitten off in this thread!

edited by - syn on 8 august 2002 13:43:36.

Nanoprobe

Guys, I have this idea for helping with the IMAGE PROBLEM.

What do you think?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=34128&site=3

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Silentlambs March: Controversal Idea?

by Nanoprobe in

this is a controversial post because it relates to your personal grooming & dress.

problem: jr brown & watchtower have managed to create an image problem for bill bowen & silentlambs.

in jw land he isn't a victims advocate, he is simply a deceitful apostate.

Nanoprobe

This is a controversial post because it relates to your PERSONAL GROOMING & DRESS.

PROBLEM: JR Brown & Watchtower have managed to create an IMAGE PROBLEM for Bill Bowen & SilentLambs

In JW land he isn't a VICTIMS ADVOCATE, he is simply a DECEITFUL APOSTATE

SOLUTION: Mess with their game and more fun: Mess with their minds.

(Okay, honestly, this isn't a total solution it's just a few dents in their armor but here's the plan:)

WHEN WE MARCH FOR SILENTLAMBS WE DON'T LOOK LIKE APOSTATES!

WHY BOTHER?

What group forms opinions almost totally on appearance? JW's right?

Remember their brilliant comments following Dateline?

How come Erica wore a cross? Why did Erica's dad have long hair? What's with Holly's tattoos? (You would have thought the show was about dress codes)

Remember your own life: Hair length, moustache size, beard, side burns, cleavage, skirt length, etc.

They have antiquated but nonetheless potent consideration for appearances.

SURPRISE 'EM: What happens if we don't fit their IMAGE of an APOSTATE?

What happens if we look just like they do? When they see the article in the local press we look like ordinary normal JWs?

Think they'll wonder if we are in fact EVIL APOSTATES?

Even to the world in general we will look like regular JWs not RADICALS

Bill's image problem has nothing to do with his dress but we can help change the overall image nevertheless.

What do you think?

Check this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=33978&site=3

Edited by - nanoprobe on 8 August 2002 17:36:10

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JWZone Thread on Bill Bowen - UPDATED!

by SYN in

yes i know you're all getting p*d off with my jwzone threads, but i couldn't let this one go by!!!!!!

so, i'm just going to embed the thread here and let you guys comment...hehe...some jwzoners are going to get their heads bitten off in this thread!

edited by - syn on 8 august 2002 13:43:36.

Nanoprobe

Funny how all the other groups would be classified as: Victim's Advocate Group's by our JW Focus group, but why not Silentlambs?

If this was just business I would be trying to determine how best to re-market our product for more mass appeal. The prejudices our Focus Group revealed would be a problem to overcome not the end of the product.

One more thought: Individual Americans defeated the McCarthy Era senate. Now that was a sizable task! Of course the constitution gives more freedom that the Watchtower

Edited by - nanoprobe on 8 August 2002 14:20:0

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JWZone Thread on Bill Bowen - UPDATED!

by SYN in

yes i know you're all getting p*d off with my jwzone threads, but i couldn't let this one go by!!!!!!

so, i'm just going to embed the thread here and let you guys comment...hehe...some jwzoners are going to get their heads bitten off in this thread!

edited by - syn on 8 august 2002 13:43:36.

Nanoprobe

Sad to say but you're probably right, Dave.

I guess we pried ourselves away by being willing to DISCUSS different topics not just relay WTBS dogma. It's one person at a time. Lately alot of evenings we sit outside and discuss religion with our neighbor an Assembly of God preacher. In all my Watchtower days I don't think I actually discussed doctrine with anyone, I just tried to prove the other guy wrong.

But on the positive side: Gotcha to post a serious agreement !