Ahh yes, didn't even mention that. I threw away my "meeting" clothes as well. Normally I'd donate clothes that I don't use anymore, but those JW posessed/cursed suits, shirts, and ties needed to see their end in a lake of fire and sulphur. No bitterness here hehe :)
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Did you keep any of your old JW paraphernalia?
by i_drank_the_wine infor those of us who have made the clean break, did you keep any of your old jw stuff?
books, "service" bag, etc?.
i didn't keep a shred myself.
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How old were you when...
by agent zero in..when you got baptised, and when you discovered the truth about the truth?.
me: 20 and 27.
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i_drank_the_wine
14 and 28
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Watchtower baptizing young children
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtower baptizing young children.
today i uploaded a new article to my blog addressing further the subject of watchtower and baptism of young children.
the sweet little boy youll see in this blog article had no capacity whatsoever to understand the commitment he would be held to.
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i_drank_the_wine
Brainwashing a child and giving them a disadvantaged start in life is disgusting and criminal as far as I'm concerned. Yes, many ex-JW's turn out quite successful, but putting a child through school as an outcast, not permitting them to be friends with the other kids at school, not permitting them to broaden their horizons with extra-curricular activities, discouraging higher education, risking their lives by denying blood transfusions, instilling a deep sense of guilt/fear/dread/whatever towards a murderous imaginary god, and on and on, does not help a child optimally or even normally develop the skills to live well in this world.
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Did you keep any of your old JW paraphernalia?
by i_drank_the_wine infor those of us who have made the clean break, did you keep any of your old jw stuff?
books, "service" bag, etc?.
i didn't keep a shred myself.
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For those of us who have made the clean break, did you keep any of your old JW stuff? Books, "service" bag, etc?
I didn't keep a shred myself. There were a few items in there that could arguable have sentimental value. My terribad dad gave me my first bible 20+ years ago with a letter from him written on the inside cover. My sister gave me one of those custom bibles with my name and other crap on the fancy cover after I got baptized at 14. All trash though as far as I'm concerned now. Everything that those things represent is just too disgusting to me.
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Jesus is invisibly ruling!
by life is to short ini was thinking about a thread of terry's and how the whole concept of jesus is ruling right now only he is invisible sounds like a crazy person is speaking.
yet this is one of the major religious teachings of jw's.
one that we were expected to explain to strangers by coming uninvited to their doors.
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Of course Jesus is ruling invisibly from heaven right now! Can't you tell from all the invisible benefits and invisible solutions that his kingdom has brought about?
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on the subject of elders reading this message board
by cptkirk ini'm still laughing to myself thinking about elders/bethelites reading this messageboard.
yet another contradiction to throw in the basket.
didn't they always say how dangerous it is to read anything that contradicts the teachings of the wts?
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i_drank_the_wine
Its sad that so many people probably are paranoid about getting caught when they really should just be free. I know situations get complicated, but damn, we only get this one life. I can't imagine ever fearing what a J-dub elder could ask or do to me.
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Something has really annoyed me and I need to get it off my chest
by mummatron inmy children's paternal grandmother (g) and great grandmother's (gg) racist attitudes.
i'm sorry but i really need to vent about this.... g was saying how she'd taken my son to the beach yesterday.
she parked away from the seafront so had to walk through the fairground to get to the beach.
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I dunno, if you are a white person going to an ATM at night, and you can walk two paths to get it, one with an urban dressed black guy, one with a white guy, you'll probably pick the white one. Is it racism? Maybe. Do crime statistics justify the person's actions? Maybe. Are people more comfortable with their "own kind"? Probably. It wouldn't bother me much really, going either way.
That being said, in the past I have known quite a few JW's (including 2-3 elders) that loved making jokes and comments that were clearly racist without batting an eyelash. The JW's love to beat that drum and say "we're different than everyone else", but outside of their public airs at the Kingdumb Hall I've known them to be just as foul, dishonest, and shitty as any other random non-JW person that's also shitty. Their spiritual paradise is a fucking fart in the wind.
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Blondies series deconstructing current WT study articles
by Glander inno matter where you are in the jw realm, this is a must read.
it is the up to the minute status of the always evolving wt society teachings..
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How many of us probably read WT shit more now that we're out than when we were in?
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Depressing
by mankkeli inisn't it depressing to believe that this is all there is to life?, an elder told me today that philosophers, apostates, free thinkers and many other enemies of the truth alike do not offer any hope for the future.
but this is the only organisation offering the hope.. what do you think?, the thought of living for just 70 or 80 yrs and not returning back is very depressing or do some other line of reasonings offer any hope?.
i am just curious..
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Knowing that there is nothing after I'm dead and gone is pretty fuckin depressing to me personally. After being raised to think that there's something else out there, then becoming an adult, learning and knowing better was a fairly jarring, unhappy mental transition for me. However, it is far less depressing than the thought of all those zombie JW's that are gonna get the same 70-80 as me but will be wasting it pissing into the wind for an imaginary invisible man.
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Do you think that the JW religion will die out?
by i_drank_the_wine inwhile the number of jw's reported every year is still growing, it doesn't seem to really be growing as fast as they once did.. do you think that they will eventually level off and then decline?
some of this was based on the stats on this page i was reading: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php granted, statistics can be presented in whatever light the author is trying to represent (look at the way the jw's massage their statistics to always be favorable).. of particular interest was their deductive math to find the number of people leaving yearly, which is pretty considerable.. a popular pew research study that lots of you probably heard about a couple years ago stated that jw's have the lowest family retention rate of any other mainstream religion.. combine the aging jw populace, the number of people leaving every year, the slowing growth rate numbers, the mindset held by many to "not have children in this system", the children that are had are only staying jw's roughly 1/3rd of the time according to statistics, the end never coming... add 20, 30 years?
could the jw's actually, for all intents and purposes, die out?.
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While the number of JW's reported every year is still growing, it doesn't seem to really be growing as fast as they once did.
Do you think that they will eventually level off and then decline? Perhaps to nothing?
Some of this was based on the stats on this page I was reading: http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php Granted, statistics can be presented in whatever light the author is trying to represent (look at the way the JW's massage their statistics to always be favorable).
Of particular interest was their deductive math to find the number of people leaving yearly, which is pretty considerable.
A popular PEW research study that lots of you probably heard about a couple years ago stated that JW's have the lowest family retention rate of any other mainstream religion.
Combine the aging JW populace, the number of people leaving every year, the slowing growth rate numbers, the mindset held by many to "not have children in this system", the children that are had are only staying JW's roughly 1/3rd of the time according to statistics, the end never coming... add 20, 30 years? Could the JW's actually, for all intents and purposes, die out?