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Proof of God or Christ without a holy book

by Awen in

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in some previous posts i have asked certain questions that still haven't been answered.

so without going back to those threads and possibly de-railing them i thought it best to make a new topic.

please bear with me.. i have asked certain ones to prove the existence of god or christ without referencing any biblical writings or characters.

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i wonder what the numbers are of ex-jws, or ex-any religion, that are atheist/agnostic vs those who still believe in a god/gods

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Steve Jobs message @ death. ALL JWS NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS!!!

by itscrap&theyknowit! in

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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2011/10/06/jobs-stanford-commencement-dying.cnn?hpt=hp_t1.

i cried when i watched this.

the message: don't let another human's opinion ruin your life!

i never liked jobs and his insane narcism, but he did start a company that changed the world, and his ending quotes nearly brought a tear to my eye. thanks for sharing. was never a fan, but can't deny that he was his own man that walked the path of his choosing. rip steve. jw's could learn a lot from him.

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WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

by i_drank_the_wine in

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taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

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good point yan. then again people in the tree hugger movement are against any form of wasteful tree killings, and more copies of the wt are printed every month than any other periodical on earth. theres definite ex-jw bias there, but i stil think it sort of gives an idea of how much stuff they spit out, knowing that a lot of it just gets thrown away. every time i moved when i was a jw i had bags full of unplaced mags that i just threw in the garbage.

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WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

by i_drank_the_wine in

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taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

i_drank_the_wine

A friend of mine just brought up a good point, which could suck the wind out of that argument. What if the jw's are using all recycled paper? Still seems like a terrible amount of waste though. Not sure if recycled printing paper is like recycled paper towels and such, but usually the "go green" stuff at the market is more expensive than the new stuff. WT seems like some cheap-asses to me, so i dunno.

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WTBTS impact on the environment nubmers, repost from another jw site

by i_drank_the_wine in

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taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-wtbts.htm.

i never found statistics on the amount of paper the wtbts wastes, but i think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote.

it got me curious and i decided to crunch some numbers.... they print 42 million washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_e_20110501.pdf).

i_drank_the_wine

taken from: http://www.thebroadroad.com/forum/#topic/Bring-to-ruin-those-ruining-the-earth-trees-WTBTS.htm

I never found statistics on the amount of paper the WTBTS wastes, but I think they're might be a little hypocritical by parading the "he will bring to ruin those ruining the earth" verse that they always quote. It got me curious and I decided to crunch some numbers...

They print 42 million Washtowels a month, more than any other magazine in the world (http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/wp_E_20110501.pdf). This is a stupendous amount of paper when you consider the number of other things they also publish.

The WTBTS does not release numbers on other printing endeavours, but just for argument sake let's say that the monthly printing of Awakes, NWT's, tracts, brochures, song books, daily texts, memorial invites, time slips, discarded excess paper, misprints, thicker paper book covers, boxes for shipping, paper records, and all the other books combined uses the same amount of paper (although I would feel pretty safe guessing that the number is higher) as their monthly Watchtower printing.

So, 42 million public Washtowels a month, at 32 pages each (16 pieces of paper) = 672,000,000 pieces of paper a month X 2 (as per above conservative guesstimate on total printing of everything else that they do) gives us 1,344,000,000 pieces of paper a month, 16,128,000,000 pieces of paper a year.

Paper is generally made from pine trees, with the average tree yielding 80,500 sheets of paper(http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/question16.htm)

So, using rough math based on their own data and some other referenses, the WTBTS is devouring at least 200,387 trees a year.

According to the US forest service, there was an estimated 286,464,432 live timberland trees in the US in 2002 (their count did not include Alaska, and this count is undoubtedly a lower number now): http://www.fia.fs.fed.us/slides/Trend-data/Web%20Historic%20Spreadsheets/1977_2002_Live_trees_dbh.xls

Using a program to count the number of blue pixels in the map below and using the figures above, I made a graphical representation of the number of estimated trees eaten by the WTBTS every YEAR (orange square) vs the government's live timber count. This orange block representing the annual tree usage looks small, but is roughly the same size as all but one of the Hawaiian islands and some of the the smaller states too. If they're monthly printing of everything other than the public Watchtower is larger than that of the public Watchtower (which I think it is) then this box grows even larger.

I'm sure you'll agree, whether you did this yourself or not, that a large percentage of JW's don't even come close to reading each Watchtower, nevermind all the other books and brochures that they spam everyone with. Nevermind the percentage of "placed" pieces of literature being read... most of which wind up in laundromat garbage cans. Add in all the fuel and energy used to print this trash, and we have a printing, real estate, and holdings corporation that is throwing a massive amount of our dwindling tree growth straight down the drain.

If I didn't calculate something right or if I left anything out let me know. I haven't had my coffee yet.

Curiosity turned off... back to work...

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"JehovahsWitnesses do not try to predict when God will destroy the wicked."

by stillstuckcruz in

sorry i pressed enter on the last topic by mistake.

anyway, in the new december 1st, public edition of the wt, in an article titled "will the earth survive 2012?

" an actual paragraph says this:.

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"...destroy the wicked."

LOL. Who talks like that, honestly? Douchebags.

And, yes, the WTS counts on its adherents having VERY short memories.

I hear talk like this constantly... from patriots. Another form of idiocracy.

We are all one.

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Do you have friends that work for Yahoo?

by Iamallcool in

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i was wondering if yahoo is still trying to get another new version of yahoo email.

i like to know some secrets.

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WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? I AM INSANE WITH CONFUSION.

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Did you have any Elders CO's/DO's that were "Hung up" on certain things????

by karter in

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we had an elder that was hung up on mens haircuts he had a real thing about how short mens hair should be and even told one bro off for parting his hair down the middle.. even told one bro to shave off his sideburns.. a c.o who was paronoid about sound always telling the bro in charge off.. .

a d.o who orded the attendants to remove crying babys from assemblys on more than a few occations...hans hubler for those that know him..

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Jean skirts were a deffinite no-no according to our (CO).

Any form of facial hair other than a mustache was worldly (elders/CO).

Two people in a "courtship" were not allowed to sit next to each other at the Kingdumb Hall until they were publicly engaged (elders).

Anyone that gets a 2-door car doesn't have their priorities straight and is bad association (elders).

Pokemon is demonized (elder).

Brothers that cut their hair too short are imitating the Catholic tonsure, which is bad (former elder, old+senile now).

Anyone with a goatee is trying to attract homosexual attention to their mouth hole, the same way female African gazelle's have a circular pattern around their bottoms to attract male penile attention (former elder, old+senile now).

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