Dunedain

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  Research help needed: knowledge of Knights Templar and Masonic history vital

  by Fay Dehr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am in conversation with a uk historian regarding some knights templar locations, where jws have built buildings.

  *** this is serious research - not a joke *** .

  i am not - and do not wish to be - a conspiracy theorist, but something has come to light in the uk and i lack the knowledge of knights templar + masons.

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  Dunedain

  This may not be specific to what you are asking, but i do know that a LOT of Christian churches in Europe were built on top of ancient Pagan holy sites.

  As Christianity became the dominant religion during the middle ages, many Crusaders and Templars destroyed ancient Pagan sites, and erected churches directly on top of them.

  Now, with modern technology, and things like google earth, they are realizing that these churches are built on Ley lines, and sometimes create symbols when observed from the air, or satellite, and odd things like that. Again, not that the churches themselves created this, but because they were built on Pagan sites, that were in distinct places thousands of years ago. Such as corresponding with Summer and Winter solstices, or a grouping of these Pagan sites/churches symbolizing constellations, and other uncanny things.

  Maybe the WTBS continued this further, by buying some of the same spots that these churches, and Pagan sites, were on, and made them branches for the WTBS, i dont know, but its possible.
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  Death's in Noah's flood

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has the wt ever come out with an article that indicates how many people died during the mythical flood?

  i searched on their site but couldn't find anything.

  any help would be greatly appreciated.

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  Dunedain

  No matter what number of deaths from the flood, the WTBS comes up with, i am sure the number will be watered down.
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  Nosey Brothers and Sisters

  by kennylazo1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please explain some of your past experiences of dealing with dealing with nosy brothers and sisters and how you dealt with them.

  also have you ever dealt with a brother or sister who brings up your past just as a new topic for a conversation?

  that happened to me once.

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  Dunedain

  I think ALL JWs are nosey. They are ingrained to literally go to peoples homes, unannounced, knock on their doors, check to see if people are home by peeking thru windows, seeing if doors are locked or not, check gates for locks, identify amounts of electric meters to determine how many people are living there, look for cars pulling in or out of driveways, seeing if pets are in or out of a home, and asking little Jonny or Susie, if their Mommy or Daddy is home, all at homes they were NOT invited to.

  Its called field service, and it screams nosey.

  Then you have Elders who feel it is their God given duty to pry, extract information, spy, and snoop, for the "protection" of the flock.

  By nature JWs believe it is their right to be nosey, as getting information on "suspected" sinners, benefits all.
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  Former Jehovah’s Witness jailed for child sex crimes

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/former-jehovahs-witness-jailed-for-child-sex-crimes-ng-b88859067z.

  a former jehovah’s witness who sexually assaulted three young boys says his homosexual inclinations were repressed by his religion and manifested in his crimes.. gavin andrew lamont, 46, was jailed for four years today for assaulting two vulnerable teenagers in the early to mid-90s and another boy about 20 years later.. lamont encouraged the teens to give him massages and suggested he needed help checking for testicular cancer.. district court judge linda petrusa said lamont, who knew he was homosexual from about age 13, had significant cognitive distortions around sex because of his religious beliefs.. .

  she said the victims, who were aged between 14 and 16, were vulnerable because of their youth and lack of sophistication.. judge petrusa sentenced lamont to four years behind bars for indecently dealing with a child and four counts of indecent assault.. lamont was kicked out of the mundaring congregation in 1997 after one of his victims complained to other members, but was reinstated after doing counselling with elders.. he was kicked out of the congregation for a second time in 2014 after another victim made a complaint.. lamont’s crimes came to the attention of police last year through the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.. defence lawyer seamus rafferty described the case as complex, saying lamont struggled with his sexuality because his religion told him it was a sin.. he told the court the church was the essence of lamont’s being and said his client tried to repress his sexuality and ended up behaving in “naïve, unsophisticated and pathetic ways”.. lamont’s parents and sister are all living with complicated health issues and rely heavily on his help and care.. mr rafferty asked judge petrusa to give lamont a conditional suspended jail term, saying he was the glue that was holding his family together.. “this is a case for the exercise of mercy, its mercy towards them (his family) and nobody else,” he said.. judge petrusa accepted a prison term would be tough on lamont’s family but said an immediate jail term was the only appropriate punishment.. in a statement to the court, one of the victims said he felt that he was “forever stained” by lamont’s crime.. he said the abuse had made him self-conscious in his dealings with his own child.. lamont will be eligible for parole after spending two years behind bars.. .

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  Dunedain

  WOW!!! So, he tricked young boys into checking him for testicular cancer???

  How did that conversation go? Hey bros, do me a solid, please, i think i gots me some serious sh#t goin down with my balls, yo! You mind peepin my balls yo? Hook a brother up and see if ya feel any lumps on my balls, please. I know ya all are teenagers, and i should be asking a doctor, but you think these balls got cancer written on them, or what?

  Interesting indeed, glad he is in jail.
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  Not posted for a year because mum died did not want blood.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted here weekly until a year ago when my mum died of a mild form of lukemia which is easy to treat with 2 blood tranfusions a month.

  you can live to 100 with treatment, but no my mum chose to die a faithful witness after 2 years of chemo and hell for her family and doctors.

  her chemo doctor cried when she only had weeks left to live knowing that she could be saved with one bag of blood!

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  Dunedain

  Geez, what a shame, Witness007. Such a waste, and truly tragic. I am so sorry that this evil organization's man-made rules took a family member away from you.

  You mentioning about her 1 year old Granddaughter, missing out by losing her, especially touched my heart. I am sure this has been, and continues to be a very difficult time for you and your family. Sometimes its nice to vent, or just sit back and read, in a forum like this, so we are here for you.

  The GB have tremendous bloodguilt on their hands and souls. When we hear painfull stories like yours, it reminds us how evil this cult is, and that their policies are NOT a joke. Instead, they are truly a destructive, evil, organization, and must be stopped.
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  WT Finger Pointing

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do you have examples of wt style finger pointing (with 3 pointing right back).

  "satans organization claims to be gods organization, and persecutes those who are actually members of gods organization.

  satans organization sails under the high-sounding name of "christendom".

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  Dunedain

  These are real "gems". Its amazing to see them in black and white, and blatantly showing the utter hypocrisy of this organization.

  What a bunch of clowns, really. A complete bunch of nonsense, and a joke. If it wasnt that this organizations policies, literally split up families, mentally trap humans, and hurt so many lives, it would be comical almost.

  These are great, please post more guys.
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  Could The Governing Body Harboring Pedophiles In High Positions Among Them?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm sure most are familiar with the greenlee's story floating around the internet.

  so what if some members of the governing body have been accused of molesting a child and used the 2 witness rule to silence a accusation?

  so could it be that because some high up watchtower corporation person/persons has clung to the rule because it save's his corporate ass.

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  Dunedain

  Who knows, but anything is possible. It is a cult that has policies that are pro child pedophilia, and allows these pedos safe harbor.

  These said policies come from the top, so who knows.
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  The Ride

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  the ride!.

  about 2 weeks ago i went on a one day motorcycle ride with about 50-60 other jw’s.

  (at least most of them claimed to be dubs) it’s an event that 2 jw fleshly brothers put on every year.

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  Dunedain

  No, it sounds fake, and in no way am i saying that it really is fake. What i mean is, i never heard of, or experienced anything like that with 50 to 60 Jws.

  Maybe, because they are motorcycle riders, they are more open minded, flexible, and human, than the average JW. I know that when i was "in" many years ago, brothers riding motorcycles was actually frowned upon, and while they wouldnt outright say it, it was used against you. Even privileges were held back in some circumstances, because of it.

  So, maybe motorcycle riding JW's are already open minded, more so, freer thinkers, and not so "in the box", making them more level headed.

  In my old congregation, there would have never been an elder, who was a motorcycle rider, maybe MS's, but not elders.

  I have personal knowledge of this, intimately. My father IS an avid motorcycle rider. He owns a Harley sportster, AND a Valkyrie, and he is indeed considered a "rebel" in JW land, trust me.
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  Ten years ago - Our congregation held a leaving party for us

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ten years ago, truthseeker and his family and other witnesses who were moving to different congregations were given a congregation leaving party at a community hall in new jersey.

  i had been planning my slow fade from the congregation for a while.

  i grew up in the south coast of england as a third generation jw and moved to america in july 2001. .

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  Dunedain

  Good for you, in getting your family safely out of the Cult. Its crazy the things some need to do, to just try and separate themselves from this organization, and the pushy elders and higher ups.

  I do have to say, i laughed out loud a bit, when you said how at the "moving party" the microphone made it to you, and you had to address everyone, and tell them where you were "moving" lol. You must have been like a deer in the headlights, lol.

  It never fails when you are trying to remain in the shadows, and then the spotlight gets shined right on you, lol.
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  North American History - Red George MacDonnell

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  greetings to the colonies .

  i have come across this individual in the course of some local history research - back in the late 18th c his aunt and her husband owned the estate where i now live and his parents settled nearby.

  he gets credit for a victory at ogdensberg in the war of 1812.. is 'red george macdonnell known to the average american/canadian or is he an obscure figure?

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  Dunedain

  Very interesting stuff. I am a self proclaimed history scholar myself, with the American Revolution, Civil War, and WW 2, being my top indulgences.

  I have interesting Revolutionary War history, both in where i grew up/born and raised, and where i currently live, only 20 minutes away, but in another state.

  Where i grew up was in one of the boroughs of NYC, specifically on Staten Island, and more specifically in the southern most point of Staten Island and NYC, an area called Tottenville. Well it just so happens that Tottenville has an old building called the Conference house, which was only a few minutes from my own home growing up.

  This house was built in the early 1700s, and was one of the only homes on the Island during the time of the American revolutionary war. At that time it was called the Billop house. Its name later got changed to the Conference house, because during the height of the war, both Washington, and Jefferson, and some of the top military brass, had an impromptu war meeting, while being chased by the British army.

  This house now sits, mostly untouched, name "The Conference House", and on a city park. Interestingly, its right on the water, and acroos this body of water is Perth Amboy NJ. The British chased the Americans over this water, into NJ, all the way down to Monmouth NEW Jersey, where the battle of Monmouth courthouse happened.

  Whats funny, is i now live in New Jersey, and only 20 minutes from that battle site. I definitely grew up, and lived right in the heart of where the roots of the American nation were formed.