@ - Vidiot - You may very well be correct, idk. Maybe they are afraid of what ex-JW's can expose, if they come back. Or that they could be a bad "influence". For an org, that preaches so much love, and that they are the truth. They sure alienate and hurt, so many. They have no clue what they are doing. Even from a standpoint of, having more could mean more growth, more donations, more hearts reached, but NO, they cant even do that right. As quickly as some are brought thru the front door, is as quickly as they are kicked out thru the back door. They are idiots.
Dunedain
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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?
by John Aquila inits been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?
by John Aquila inits been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
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@ - Onefingersalute - Dude, i cant beleive that PO said that to you, or made a point to say it, via the "local needs" talk. What an unloving, judgemental, self-righteous, piece of SHIT. Talk about going against EVERYTHING that Jesus stood for. I had, an almost eerily similar, situation with my piece of shit Elders. They treated my 20 year old self, like i was worthless, and anything i had to say meant nothing. I couldnt have been repentant, in their eyes, they pre-judged my situation. In fact, i told them i was sorry, and that my actions proved repentance. They didnt care, and actually compared me to JUDAS, by saying, "oh well he repented too, after his act". What pieces of shit these MEN are, i have such anger, and hatred for them sometimes, for how they treat fellow humans. -
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Adjusting
by cognac injust feel like i could never make it on the outside world.
i was never able to adjust, except in being a mom and in business.
those are the only things that i feel strong in.
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I agree with Millie. Really, you got the top 2 things, covered great. Being a Mom/parent, should be your first priority, and it sounds like you are doing great with that. Being succesfull in business, WOW, thats awesome, and quite an accomplishment. That one is usually number 2 on peoples list, some, without children, would say its number 1.
Maybe, you are having issues making friends. Well, just apply the skills you used to become a good Mom, and a good business person. It may come naturally, after that.
If its spirituality, that you are looking for, or not having an easy time adjusting too, that may be a bit harder, but it can be figured out. Thats part of everyones own personal journey. You should never let the org/GB, dictate what your spirituality is. Its between you and Jehovah, or you and the universe, or you and your own peace inside.
Dont be so hard on yourself, you are probably doing fine. Yes, we can always do better, but we have to take it one step at a time. Even 8 years, is not neccessarily a long time, in the scheme of life. If you accomplished being a great Mother, and a powerhouse in business, in 8 years of being "out", you should COMMEND yourself, and be PROUD.
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What other Shenanigans can we expect to see in the next 2 years?
by John Aquila inits been a little over 2 years since i left the watchtower.
in that time the magazines have been cut, the birth of jwtv, jw-org.
carts for preaching, removed district overseers, cut assemblies, demand all the money from the congregations, stop construction and layoff bethelites, change the format of the tmschool .
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Dunedain
If the GB, WAS to get rid of the door to door preaching, and institute tithing, and completely do away with the Watchtower mags, that would be foundationally earth shattering. MANY, MANY, will question, and awake, and be wondering, "what is going on with the org i ONCE new".
Those changes, specifically, would change manys mindset, because, those were things that the GB, has said for over 100 years, were the "proof" that they were the "chosen" org of Jehovah.
Going DOOR to DOOR, for years has been proclaimed as, "fullfilling bible prophecy" with Mathew 24:14. The tithing, is what the nation of Christendom does, and "we will never do this", has been toited over, and over, again by the WTS, as "proof" of the orgs "inspiration". The Watchtower magazine, is the "stinging scorpion", that will "expose" Christendom, thats what the GB has been saying for years, and as being proof of bible prophesy, fulfilling Revelation.
If they were to make the above, fundamental, changes, it would further undermine them as being an "inspired" organization. I actually hope they DO make those changes. It would show them for being so hypocritical, and full of shit, like many of their other false prophesies. Yes, there will still be some that will just sit there and nod their heads, like the brain washed idiots they are, BUT, beleive me, changes like doing away with door to door, instituting tithing, and doing away with their "flagship" magazine, WILL shake things up, and wake up many.
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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it
by LevelThePlayingField injust had the co visit tonight.
i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.
then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.
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Well then WE have an obligation to put the word out. However, we, of course, dont want to put out false info either, because then this undermines anything we say. Its a tough position to be in, because the Borg will never admit whats really happening, and the information is hard for us to get to the bottom of.
It would be great, if there was a letter, say that only CO's have gotten, that tells about the construction stoppages, and then we in turn got a copy of. Then we could show some JW's the letter, and be like, "look read this". Its just tough when nothing exists yet. However, putting together different letters, say from what the Special pioneers got, and what the Bethelites got, and maybe letters that some from the construction dept will get. Getting this info and posting it here, is key.
We are perhaps, at the very edges tipping point, of the WTS, seriously undergoing a radical change. This can result in the waking up of many to TTATT, and the exposing what the GB, is REALLY doing with the money, and where they are concerning financialy, concerning child abuse, concerning if they are growing or crumbling.
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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it
by LevelThePlayingField injust had the co visit tonight.
i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.
then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.
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@ - Leveltheplayingfield - Thanks dude for giving us some further info. I appreciate it, man, thank you. -
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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it
by LevelThePlayingField injust had the co visit tonight.
i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.
then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.
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@ Wozza - They couldnt have said that, cause the GB doesnt curse. Cause cursing is bad, and bad words are scary. -
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Child Discipline, new article to address Jackson's Royal Commission testimony
by jwfacts ini have published a new article at watchtower corporal punishment, as a response to the testimony that geoff jackson gave at the royal commission.
it includes the relevant part of the transcript, along with a string of watchtower quotes to show that what he presented was not accurate, and that watchtower translates rod as a literal implement to hit children with.
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CO just confirmed worldwide construction halt and possible JW.ORG news of it
by LevelThePlayingField injust had the co visit tonight.
i asked him if he had heard about the worldwide halt of construction besides warwick and to my surprise he said he heard the same thing.
then he went on and add that also some branches are closing and some bethelites going into pioneering but, "all because of the preaching work now.
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@ Leveltheplayingfield - I just wanted to ask you to be completely sure, so the CO, told you personally, about the construction stopping? Also, did he confirm that it is all over the world, and that its everywhere, except Warwick? Also, did he mention, specifically, about Kingdom Hall construction stopping, or was it "other" construction? Lastly, did you get the impression, or did he outright say, that this info would be put out there, like on JW.ORG, or a letter, or announcments, whatever?
Lol, sorry to, jump down your thoat with these questions, i am just really wanting to know whats up. I think specifically hearing it from a CO, is big news and confirmation.
Thanks in advance for answering and confirming what he said.
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Hey you! Murderers you!
by umbertoecho inhello, people, fellow freaks, thinkers, out-raged ones.
this is about my lovely wonderful brain dead jw sister and her equally piss weak jw husband and how they treat their own son.
my nephew!!.
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Dunedain
I know first hand, that a lot of JW youths, when DF'd or "out", sometimes find comfort in pills, and alcohol. We know this is a false hope, though. I have lost a few friends to this scourge. Try to help him, the best you can, sounds like he needs it. Recovery is VERY possible. Options like Methadone, suboxone, detoxing, counceling, they are out there.
Its spine chilling, how unloving his own parents are towards him, and literally watching him die. Once a person succumbs ultimately, to this disease, thru death, you CANNOT turn back time. Please remember this, you only have the chance to save him, while he is alive, and only then. His parents may feel they can "replace" him, but YOU can never replace your nephew. One day, you two will be raised up high together, into a place of worthiness. Your sister, and dick-in-law, may very well be replaced themselves, in their OWN GODS eyes.
I really wish, and probably looking back you do too, that you called the authorities on your Bro- in -law, all those years ago for child abuse on a 2 year old. Thats what should have been done, but you cant go back in time. However, you DO have this time NOW, and armed with the knowledge you have about your nephew, please take advantage of this time. You dont want to wish you could go back. Now you have the chance to help.
I wish you and your nephew the best. You have my love, and support, for whatever thats worth. You seem like a person after my own heart, telling it like it is, and not putting up with bullshit. Dont put up with the bullshit, that the drugs are doing to your nephew. Now is not the time to worry about his asshole JW parents, but instead to worry about him.
Arm yourself with sword and shield, and go slay the dragon that is attacking him. The dragon is sly, and cunning. It is evil, and malicious, and the epitome of fear. You must be wise, and fierce, strong, and determined. Good luck to you, and Godspeed.