I doubt that the military people already on site and heading that way will receive this news gladly. A large percentage are reservists. The operative word is "stay in place". One of the toughest things about military service is separation from family. The reservists can effectively kiss their jobs goodbye. Guess who would bear the cost of keeping that large force in place. France seems to be willing to spend our last dollar to maintain their relationship with Iraq. You can bet that Bush will not buy into this.
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Blessed Are the PeaceMakers?
by Satanus infrance and germany have unveiled a plan that could avert a war w iraq.
-- the some 150,000 u.s. troops already deployed to the gulf should stay in place to force baghdad to cooperate and be ready to invade if it breaches the new proposed u.n. resolution; -- iraqi president saddam hussein would be forced to admit thousands of armed u.n. troops to oversee intensified weapons inspections in the whole country as well as full disarmament, creating a de facto "u.n. protectorate"; .
-- the number of weapons inspectors should be tripled from the current 100 operating in iraq; .
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To Francois, and to any in the Southeast...
by reporter ini'm coming!.
francois... .
btw, u live near atlanta i take it...on route to floridasun iz... .
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I believe there is a "gathering scheduled in Dallas for March2 to welcome Little Toe.
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Okay, Someone "Enlighten" Me... Pleas...
by AGuest injust what is it that saddam hussein has done/is alleged to have done... to warrant a war by the us upon his country, and the most certain result of mass murder of innocent men, women and children, as a result?.
now, i also ask you: please be careful in your response, as all i want are facts, versus emotional vengefulness... and such facts that say this is what he has done so that the us is rightfully entitled to war against iraq.
to that end, then, i would also ask that you make sure your reply takes into account that the us itself has not done similar... or equal... anywhere else in the world... so as to warrant the same result on upon them.. i await your response... and i truthfully bid you peace.. sj, a slave of christ, who is still trying to understand the "thoughts"... of earthling man... though i serious doubt i will....
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Who said we had to play by your rules? This is the guy who created an environmental disaster by torching all of the oil wells in Kuwait in the last conflect. What makes you think he would hesitate to drop a nuclear weapon on one of his neighbors, say like Israel? What makes you think he wouldn't turn over nuclear material or biological agents to Al Queda, or Hamas? He has already demonstrated his willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, even on his own people.
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Why do you think......
by copsec inso many people who come out of the borg are so depressed and angry and freaked out?????
i have been out for 7 years now and i am happier than i have ever been in my life and was from the very first moment i left!
the only reason i even go into ex-jw groups is i like to make fun of them and other exs are the only ones who understand what i am talking about when i make a funny comment??
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Don't worry about "fighting against God". You can't possibly win. "God's will is that you be in heaven, and nothing can keep you from it or it from you." (A Course in Miracles)
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Peaceful Pete gave good advice. When you grow beyond the realization that not all of the bible is inspired, you will be able to see the inspiration that is there. And there is much there. When you give up making an organization(church) responsible for your spiritual developement, you will become responsible yourself.
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Pastuers Anew
by johnathanseagull in.
hi all (brummie & pleasuredome), not one to let the grass grow under my feet........secured a new contract this week and gonna be working in germany till end of year, dusseldorf to be more exact........leave tuesday and so excited, i haven't posted much recently due to huge work committments but know i always visit the board to catch up whats happening at the weekends....so if any of you are in de nahe auf dusseldorf let me know and i have rooms for people to bed down in if passing.. jonny seagull.
ps pleasure, sorry i couldn't catch up with you that weekend i was in lisbon to see the red hot chilli's, they rock man!!
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BE CAREFUL. German wienerschnitzel is addictive.
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AlanF Is a Sucker
by onacruse inhe sucks up so much bandwidth that he's now an emperor!.
thanks for hammering on that keyboard, alan.
you've helped a lot of people see the light, including me (even if it did take a few years .
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Anyone that can spell obsequiousness deserves to be bowed to.
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Ok, I Need to Yap Some More...
by cyrano inone thing that always confused me in the watchtower was the meaning of the covenant.
i have come to believe the reason for my confusion is that the watchtower is actually lost in this area (well duh!).
their false teaching of the covenant has led to a house of cards.
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As usual, Francois has put his finger directly on the flaw in the atonement doctrine. I'm looking forward to his post as well. While we are waiting for his post, consider this: Suppose the "so called" rift between God and man exists only in our(mankind's) mind and has no reality at all. Suppose the real message of Jesus was that the "rift" doesn't exist. He said "I and my Father are one". "As you have seen me, you have seen the Father"."I of myself can do nothing. The Father within, He doeth the work". Suppose he was speaking for all of us. Suppose this so called rift, symbolized by the experience of "death", has no reality and the purpose of the crucifixtion and resurrection was to demonstrate that truth. The atonement doctrine "sucks". Ah, but the at-one-ment truth. That is a different matter.
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To Be or Not To Be - Like God
by Satanus inthat is the question, brothers and sisters.
often the verse about having to be perfect as their god is perfect, is repeated by persons of the bible.
does that mean to imitate only their god's perfect qualities, while avoiding imitating his imperfect qualities/actions?
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This poem by Ella Wheeler Wilcox kind of speaks to the thread:
God and I alone in space and no one else in view
"and where are the people, Lord, I asked,
"The earth beneath, the skies overhead and the dead whom I once knew?"
"Nay, those were but dreams," God smiled and said,
"Dreams that have ceased to be true.
There were no people living or dead, there was only myself and you".
"And why do I feel no fear, I asked.
Seeing You here this way?
For I have sinned I know full well
And is there a heaven and is there a hell?"
And is this the judgment day?"
"Nay, those were but dreams", the great God smiled
"Dreams that have ceased to be.
For there were no such things as fear and sin
And you-yourself , you have never been
For there is NOTHING AT ALL BUT ME!!!"
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5th Estate-The Patriot Missiles.
by foreword inlast night's "fifth estate" was about the patriot missiles.. well it seems that during and after the gulf war, the us was claiming almost 100% accuracy in intercepting the scud missiles with the patriots.. shortly after the war, bush sr. visited raytheon, the company which manufactures the patriot missiles.
in a speech there, and although he knew then that the accuracy was....well....0%..he still claimed 100%.. during the war, through their media cronies, they actually had footage of patriots intercepting scuds, which was all a set-up.. what they failed to mention when they talked about 100% accuracy, was that the accuracy they were talking about was that the patriots entered the same airspace as the scuds but not at the same time.
there was not one contact with the scuds.
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The problem with the Gulf War Patriots was they they couldn't distinguish between the warhead and the missle shell which was well separated from the warhead by the time the Patriot intercepted. Hopefully they've improved them in recent years. The Patriot was designed to intercept aircraft where that problem didn't exist.
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Elders authority over non JW's?
by figureheaduk injust been looking at e-watchman's mailbag (a bit one sided to say the least.........), and there was a question from a girl who is studying with someone else who she's fallen in love with.
it seems that she's been told that they can't date until they've both been baptized - so she asked the e-watchman his advice.
the first sentence of his reply was "the elders in the congregation don't really have authority over those who are not part of the congregation".
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I butted heads with the elders on several occassions when I felt they were trying to usurp my position as head of my family. Things like telling my kids how long they could wear their hair, what movies they could see, etc. After I told them to butt out, I didn't have any more problems with them.