Posts by Navigator

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Is God Really our Father?

by pettygrudger in

i'm sure this one has gone round the mulberry bush a few times, yet i haven't seen it.. as a parent, i know the level of affection & unconditional love that i have for my children.

they could become serial killers, and although i would be in agreement that they must pay the consequences for their actions, i wouldn't stop loving them.

if they came to believe differently than i, or if they chose a course of action that i didn't approve, my love for them would continue anyways.

Of course God is our Father/Mother and loves us unconditionally. Your love for your own children is but a dim reflection of the love that God has for us. Your problem is that you have accepted the warped view of God presented by the writers of the old testament books. Here is a quote from A Course In Miracles (p.261, Ed 1)

"You cannot understand how much your Father loves you, for there is no parallel in your experience of the world to help you understand it. There is nothing on earth with which it can compare, and nothing you have ever felt apart from Him resembles it ever so faintly. You cannot even give a blessing in perfect gentleness. Would you know of One Who gives forever, and Who knows of nothing except giving?"

It is we who have blocked the awareness of God's love from our minds because we do not feel worthy to receive that love. We are like the returning prodigal son who wants to be made one of the hired hands because of his shame and guilt. Do you not remember what the Father's response was? He ordered the ring to be placed on his finger and the robe placed around his shoulders and directed that a banquet of rejoicing be prepared.

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Thinking About a Couple of Good Friends

by onacruse in

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jst2laws and joy2bfree: our thoughts are with you both, and with your family, as you enter the lion's pit today.. it's an inspiration to know that you are both going into the "meeting" with happy hearts, and will both be leaving with smiles.

your courage and honesty, and how you still care so much even for those who are about to do you such a disservice...well, it all speaks to your sterling character.. hugs to you both.. craig & katie

Navigator

God Bless Them Both! Actually HE/SHE already has with friends like you.

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WT "Chains of Command"

by out4good3 in

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friends

how many people here are avid star trek fans?.

i've just finished watching parts i and ii of the episode "chains of command" and a couple of sequences in the episode reminded me of how the wt controls people.

in the episode capt picard is tortured and forced to believe he's seeing 5 lights when in fact there is only four.. what brought this to mind is the irrational statements i've heard from people in the "trooth", statements whereby they've suspended all common sense and choose only to believe anything the wt organization tells them.

Navigator

I remember that episode well, but haven't seen it on the reruns in quite some time. Some of the themes on the old version were very metaphysical and have been repeated on the "Next Generation". I confess to being an avid fan. The old version with Captain Kirk and Spock were pretty crude by today's standards, but very well written.

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A question for Pagans--what's happening at my hous

by Kingpawn in

by now many of you know i'm studying wicca, am in contact with a high priestess of a coven who's graciously answering many questions i have, and i'm also studying tarot cards online.. this past weekend the exercise with lesson three on the tarot was to do some sample readings.

some odd things have happened since then.

i bolded them for easier finding.. since then, my youngest daughter and i have heard a scratching sound that i took to be birds on the spouting, though we couldn't see it.

Navigator

Sounds like you might have either squirrels or rats. A friend of mine had a rat crawl through electrical conduit and electrocute himself across the terminals in the meter box. On damp days, the body of the rat would act like a shunt and the lights would mysteriously dim and the appliances would shut themselves off.

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Recovering from shunning Part 2

by MegaDude in

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friends

one thing i found effective to recover from shunning by the jws, which devastated me, was this truth.

people tend to move in "tribes.

" i had been in a rather exotic and weird tribe, the watchtower and jehovah's witnesses.

Navigator

Hey Dude

Just remember that Navigator has final approval authority on any candidates for the next "Mrs. Dude".

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Judas Iscariot

by nativenyr23 in

was watching a deal on tv last night (discovery channel, history channel, can't remember)....and it reminded me of something i've always thought about.. was judas really a bad guy?

should he be condemned for doing something that had to be done?

i mean, after all, had he not "betrayed his master".....then jesus wouldn't have died, right?

Navigator

I agree with the post by Metatron. I believe that Judas was a Zealot and was trying to force Jesus's hand or perhaps God's hand to do away with Roman power. Perhaps he thought that Jesus would call down a band of angels if he were faced with such a painful death. Or perhaps he thought that God would not allow the sacrifice. In any case, the money was probably incidental and ritual. It never occurred to Judas that Jesus would put up no defence at all. If his motivation was money, why hang himself? He had the money.

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Where are my pigs?

by bikerchic in

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ok xenawarrior......did you thwack my pigs?.

katie.......baffelededited by - bikerchic on 13 december 2002 1:28:27.

Navigator

I see the pigs just fine using IE. Perhaps XW is thwacking them selectively.

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Just when I thought it was safe...

by safe4kids in

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friends

to go upstairs:.

ok, the weirdest thing in the world, at least in my world, just .

happened!!!

Navigator

My wife woke up one night because she heard the geribil screaming. She found it in the hallway being batted back and forth by the cat. He had gotten out of his cage. Not sure if the cat helped him out. She managed to rescue the geribil, but he was never the happy, go lucky little fellow that he had been. Your geribil was quite brave, but demonstrated a common reaction of all animals, including us. They attack out of fear.

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Jehovah or God is blood thirsty

by MrMoe in

second kings, we learn that menahem, leader of the israelites, smote all the people who refused to follow him and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up (2 kings 15:16).

later, in hosea, we learn that because the land of samaria rejected god, samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her god: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up (hosea 13:16).

hosea decided to carry out gods vengeance on the people by killing the unborn babies carried by the heathen women.

Navigator

Chris Vance

The last time I checked, Jews and Palestinians were part of the human race. They have the power to make a decision to live in peace. They can decide to stop killing each other. We are making great progress in the treatment of cancer and AIDS. And where we are unsuccessful, we can comfort those who are dying. Apparently you think of yourself as a body who has a spirit. I think of myself and others as spirits who happen to be occupying a body. We are all immortal beings. I don't know why children aquire catastrophic illnesses. Perhaps they are here to learn a different set of lessons than the rest of us. Perhaps they are dealing with karma from a past life. Maybe they come to "audit the course" instead of taking it for credit. I don't know. I am convinced, however, that they survive the death experience. We all do. We may not be omnipotent, but we should do all that we can instead of "waiting on Jehovah".

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Do you believe in Jehovah-God

by SpannerintheWorks in

jehovah-god is going to destroy ,annihilate all the wicked.

that includes us, people!

6,000,000,000 people.

Navigator

I'm with Francois on this one. I don't recognize the god of the Old Testament.