Depends on the crowd at the particular gathering. If I am with other elders I spend my time trying to avoid them. If its with the few "friends" I have then we talk, drink, bash some of the elders, watch TV. Then there are the times when we get invited to "sister single pioneer in her 40's or 50's that moved to the cong. to help" and we spend time discussing how wonderful pioneering is and its so nice that she is here to help.. Then occasionally we get invited to "Sister elderlys" home and usually its ok, I feel bad for these lifers who gave up all for the org. so I am VERY nice to them and listen to every story the tell me.
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What Did YOU Do At A Typical Witness "Get-Together"?
by minimus indid you sing kingdumb songs, take turns reading the bible, play bible games or did you have "fun"
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Who Will Be The Next President Of The USA?
by minimus ini wouldn't be surprised if hillary makes it.
i hope not, though..
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XBEHERE
I think the GOP will win again if the dems put in Hillary as the candidate. I am doubtful that a woman will be elected, not that I care either way but this country isnt that liberal yet. Personally I would like to see a minority or female Commander in Chief soon, we're overdue.
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Why is it so many Men agree to take on the Position of an Elder?
by restrangled ini just wonder because with the stresses of earning a living, taking care of immediate family, and getting in little free time that is available, why would anyone want to take on this extra job at no charge, answer to more bosses, and be submited to endless critisizing behind your back for decisions.
it just seems crazy.. r..
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XBEHERE
It all kind of fell into my lap at age 25, far too young as was already mentioned. I was too brainwashed to say no. In all honesty I was doing fine as an MS and I wasnt even reaching out persay.... It was because I was pioneering at the time and the cong. had a need I guess. Now I want out so bad but I know it will knock down our social status in the cong and my wife cant bear to have that happen. So I stay for that reason. Pretty sad huh??
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Elders and shepherding calls
by sspo infor all the years you were in the borg, i was wondering how many of you received a friendly shepherding call from the elders?
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that was part of their responsibility as elders but in over 30 years i never received one and i found that was the case with many in the cong.. did you regularly receive a visit?
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What OnTheWayOut said exactly.
In my entire life as a JW I received maybe 4 shepherding calls.
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2 Elders Tell My Mom That She Should Take Me Off Her Health Care Assistance
by minimus inmy elderly mom had 2 visits from the elders.
she requested hospital liason help because she frequently has been having to go to the hospital, her blood count is low and doctors have told her that because she's a witness, there are certain procedures that make it difficult to attend to her without blood.
when the elders visited her , they recommended that because i "could" decide to give her blood, that i should not be the first person called with rights to give her life saving treatments.
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XBEHERE
Call those elders up and tell them that she isnt getting a blood transfusion but if she needs it, she may get 100% of the allowed fractions of blood....only all at the same time though. Since most fractions of components of blood are now allowed they can't argue with that logic can they??
(Acts 15:19-20) 19 Hence my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God, 20 but to write them to abstain from things polluted by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood.
ab·stain
Pronunciation: &b-'stAn, ab-
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Middle English absteinen, from Anglo-French asteign-,absteign-, stem of astenir,abstenir, from Latin abstinEre, from abs-, ab- + tenEre to hold -- more at THIN
: to refrain deliberately and often with an effort of self-denial from an action or practice <abstain from drinking>
- ab·stain·ernounSo based on their own translation is taking components of something abstaining? Example: I am abstaining from sex but I will allow my wife/girlfriend to masturbate me or provide oral stimulation...
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THE BACK PEDDLING HAS ALREADY BEGUN......
by Mary inas i mentioned before in another thread, my dub aunt, along with several other witnesses, told me that they were specifically told that the governing body let it be known that tract work would trigger the beginning of the end by infuriating the other religions and somehow causing the governments to "turn on babylon the great".
this was supposed to start before the end of this year.
one thing i mentioned is that they were smart enough this time, not to put anything down in writing, but simply let it get around by "word of mouth".
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XBEHERE
Like robots and zombies they covered the territory and felt so good about themselves
Exactly what happened.... robots and then everyone clapped in my cong when the service overseer announced that our territory was done..
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New Book? Live With Jehovah's Day In Mind
by TrailBlazer04 inis this a new publication?
i just found it in my stepdaughter's room (no, i wasn't snooping, she arranges things so i'll see them on my computer desk).... if i have the time, i'll try to scan it.... .
tb.
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XBEHERE
LOL.. yes they do put that "This Book is the property of" so lame. I think they started it with that Learning from the Great Teacher book and I thought it was for kids...
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NYC people or those that have been there
by mariposa init appears we will be visiting nyc from about the 16th of dec. for a week or so.
we are going to see some long lost friends of my husband in queens and i'm sure they'll show us around, but there's also going to be alot of drinking and catching up between them and i'll have quite a bit of free time on my hands.
i don't know if we're going to stay with them or not, i've been checking on craigslist for an apt or something we could rent.
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XBEHERE
In General NYC is a safe place to say, of course it has its seedy, run, down, crack, prostitution areas like any large metropolitan area does.
Staying in Manhattan can be expensive and a Tundra in Manhattan might be a challenge if you arent used to driving there.
Subways are to me the best way to get around and single fairs are $2.00 or you can purchase a weekly pass or a day pass here is the site with that info http://www.mta.info/metrocard/mcgtreng.htm
You may decide that taking a cab with a todler is better and worth the higher cost and those fairs just went up so I cant recall what they are since I seldom take cabs. There are playgrounds in central park, places to just sit in the grass and relax if you want, there is also a zoo so there are things for kids to enjoy. If I think of anything else I'll PM you.
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Were You Ever In The Congregation Clique?
by minimus inwere you "fortunate" enough to be part of the "in crowd" or were you a spectator??
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As a fader, my biggest concern is for the wife. We will soon be "out" crowd.
On the way out are you sure you arent me?? This is my concern too... currently we're in the elder's and family clique and the in crowd w. the publishers. Though I suspect the elders can see my "bad" attitiude already and some are suspect of me. Its really a matter of time before one of them goes to the CO like a f**king little punk to tattle on me, IDIOTS!
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Thoughts on The KM Blood insert
by The Lone Ranger inhello people, i live in australia so maybe this is old news to you guys who live in the usa, but in the australian nov km its has an insert regarding blood, maybe you usa guys got it on oct, but it seems to me that they are watering down the blood issue,.
for the first time they are letting the reader ask themselves the question about how their conscience would feel regarding taking blood, this has never being the case before, theyve always said a christian would not do thisa christian would not do that.
im sure you guys have read the insert, any views????
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XBEHERE
Since I am still a JW I had the misfortune of attending the meeting where this was discussed.... and it was so stupid.
"there are some cell salvage machines that are primed with whole blood" "some dialysis machines actually pause for a second or 2 before diverting blood back into your body so maybe that pause is too long for your conscience"
And there were many, MANY more stupid comments such as that. Why cant anybody see thru this... counting how long a pause is for pete's sake! The speaker also made sure to comment that we still can't donate blood. So how can we be using the medicine made from it if we dont contribute to it???! Makes no sense.