This is basically what happens at elders meetings personal opinions, occasionally the mentality does spill over into the congregation. I recently had a "shepherding" call from 2 of my fellow elders and I was told that elders need to show the example by commenting at ever meeting, making sure that my ENTITRE family was out in the ministry on one weekend day and then only me if they couldn't be there for both. They thought they were encouraging me! hah!
XBEHERE
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Elders Giving Personal Opinions as Counsel,How did it Affect You?
by flipper inhey everybody.
when i was a witness one thing that drove me crazy was getting counsel from elders shooting personal opinions off their hip like it was from jehovah god himself.
how many times at assemblies, wt articles, etc.
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WT Advice
by XBEHERE inin all the years that you were an active jw did: 1. going out in the ministry when you were down or felt depressed every make you forget your problems and cause you to feel better?
2. going to meetings when you had to rush around and practically yell and scream at your husband/wife/kids to get there ever cause you to feel better that you went instead of staying home to relax?
these are the top two elder solutions to jw problems.
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XBEHERE
In all the years that you were an active JW did: 1. Going out in the ministry when you were down or felt depressed every make you forget your problems and cause you to feel better? 2. Going to meetings when you had to rush around and practically yell and scream at your husband/wife/kids to get there ever cause you to feel better that you went instead of staying home to relax?
These are the top two elder solutions to JW problems. Personally I never regret missing meetings and we all know that the ministry is a waste of time. Did you pretend to agree when asked if you feel better for coming to the meetings? Seriously though so many elders at least say that they actually believe this crap. Did you?
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In all my years of inactivity............................
by Warlock ini was just thinking.
in all my years of being in-active, i've had more visits from spirits, or demons if you prefer, than the elders.
warlock .
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XBEHERE
I was just thinking.
In all my years of being in-active, I've had more visits from spirits, or demons if you prefer, than the Elders.
Warlock
At least these spirits wont tell you that the best way to fix anything wrong in your life is to go out in the ministry more and attend all the meetings to get encouragement.
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Did You Know or Know Of "Gay" or Bisexual JWs???
by minimus inrecently, a former witness expressed his opinion to me that he knew more than a few witnesses that were gay.personally, i know of a bisexual ex-elder who was unhappily married for a few years.
now he's "out", pardon the pun, of the organization.
i know of a newly appointed ms who is married to a sister but most people suspect he is gay.
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XBEHERE
Yes while at Bethel. There they are grouped into a specific category called "NPG's" Non Practicing Gay's. I had heard one guy that I used to work with in shipping getting Dfed when he went home due to homosexuality and I wasnt surprised.
Also one who used to work in Service while I was there, wasnt married and was VERY effeminate... of course that does not guarantee that he was/is gay but he sure seemed like it. May even be the same guy that mini's friend told him about who knows.
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Our PO enlightens me on what our congregation's problem is...
by sir82 in...we have a bunch of "whiners"!.
"why aren't i on the list to read the watchtower?
" "why haven't i been appointed as an elder yet?
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XBEHERE
the man sounds like a
prickdickI think you meant to say this instead...
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iRIVER versus iPOD a Discussion
by Terry ini've owned two different ipods including the video ipod.. i own two different iriver products including the new iriver clix2 (mp3 player, video player, digital recorder and fm radio.).
to me the iriver is the clear winner on all fronts.
(cheaper, too).. briefly: iriver allows multiple file formats and drag and drop file use.
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XBEHERE
hillary step,
Thank you for the concise, logical, unprovoking response. You are obviously a true "audiophile" and I have heard your arguments in favor of vinyl before. Perhaps someday I will get to know the difference.
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iRIVER versus iPOD a Discussion
by Terry ini've owned two different ipods including the video ipod.. i own two different iriver products including the new iriver clix2 (mp3 player, video player, digital recorder and fm radio.).
to me the iriver is the clear winner on all fronts.
(cheaper, too).. briefly: iriver allows multiple file formats and drag and drop file use.
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XBEHERE
Of course, none of what you hear on any of these systems could be called 'audio' and that is why I do not own any of them.
In fact mp3 downloads strip out some of the source information and give you a mere approximation of the studio sound.
I guess my hearing is not all that good because I really cant tell the difference.
In the end its portability and size of the device that matters anyway and this is why digital music is hear to stay.
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Elders ARE idiots!!
by Gill inthis has always been my opinion, even as a 'loyal' jw!
i thought that elders were idiots.
i have only ever known one who has ever had any real education, a solicitor and he was an arrogant twonk, the rest were a pathetic bunch of bullies who 'appeared' to be loving and kind but were infact out to find out the shit about everyone and cause as much trouble for everyone as possible.
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XBEHERE
I agree with you, most are idiots and the ones that realize this the most are other elders. Once you get appointed its like..."thats how things are decided???!!?" "these guys don't know their ass from a hole in the ground!!!"
Then you have 2 choices: try to change things to no avail by trying to be christlike and kind or become like the rest of them and be WTdisciples. If you choose to try to change things its only a matter of time before you are deleted or you step aside and end up here.
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How honest about yourself are you here on this forum?
by restrangled ini guess i am too open.
many times i have been slammed and get furious with the results.
there are a few posters including some long time members and possible trolls that enrage me.
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XBEHERE
Besides my actual name, and location I am being very accurate.
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If Jesus Is "A god", Why Are JWs Considered Monotheists?
by minimus inthey say they believe jesus christ is "a god" as john 1:1 in the nwt teaches.
they even call christ "mighty god".
(notice no small "m").
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XBEHERE
My guess is because Jesus said his father is " The Only True God" That's the answer I think you will get from the Society.
This is a similar question I had in another "Is Jesus god?" thread. So he is a FALSE god then because Jehovah is the one and only true god.