Posts by XBEHERE

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CO begging for more MS's

by life is to short in

the co is at my husbands hall this week so i tied in to the meeting he was going on and on about how there are 140 elders in the circuit and only 80 something ms's.

of the elders 25 are over 75 years old.

of the ms's it was about 20 are over 75 years old.

I think he's correct, in my cong we have almost twice as many elders as MS's and the majority of the elder body is under 50. In fact half are under 40. I noticed a trend towards many elders currently in their 30's and 40's.

The reason I think is in 1995 these now 30's and 40's elders were pioneers and MS's and we were all reaching out and pioneering or going to bethel because...... THE WORLD WAS ENDING BECAUSE THOSE WHO WERE PART OF THE 1914 GENERATION WERE FREAKING OLD! Now there is no desire to expend yourself in anything WT. After 1995 most childeren from that time period grew up and went to college or got married and had kids and went to work. Really if you think about it I am correct. Thats why there are a bunch of very old elders and many in their 30's and 40's. As far as MS's you can forget about it.

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A Sincere Questions for Current/Former WTBTS Elders/Pioneers...

by AGuest in

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may you all have peace!.

i would like to know something, if you will indulge me, please - thank you!

to what extent did you, as a jw... read/know the contents of the bible?

XBEHERE

I too read the bible diligently until I became an elder. Once you get appointed you are so busy with other crap that bible reading fades. I know thats not an excuse but thats reality. Now even when I do my talks/parts, etc. I am on auto pilot. Most if not all of it is re-hashed garbage anyway.

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10/15/11 WT Has The Crackdown On Football Started?

by yourmomma in

i've always felt that its only a matter of time before the watchtower cracks down on football (american, although soccer seems like its also referenced).

its been one of the few things jw's can do, which means it has slipped under the radar since as we know, there are very few things that are not frowned upon or banned in watchtower world.

we know that almost 99% of movies are wrong according to the standards of the watchower, and this is again mentioned in this article, but it seems like also football is in the cross hairs.

XBEHERE

Speaking from experience, most JWs hear this during the WT study and dont even realize what its saying. Nobody cares, seriously, they could say drink poisoned kool Aid at the next meeting and nobody will remember to do it. I would guess at least...at LEAST 75-90 percent of JWs go to the meetings becasue they are expected too and to be left alone by their pompous-ass GO (group overseer) who will call and say "oh I missed you today.." lol

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Aug. 15th WT - WT Society Dissing Internet Again - All JW's Beware !

by flipper in

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we always know when the gb or wt leaders are nervous and worried about potential alleged " threats " to jehovah's witnesses - because they repetitively keep mentioning these perceived " threats " in talks at assemblies or in wt articles constantly.. the " witness only " august 15th wt is no different.

in a non-study article entitled " the internet - making wise use of a global tool " once again the wt society instills doubt and fear into witnesses by " warning " them about use of the internet.

3 " while the internet can provide valuable information, save us time, and serve a useful function, it can also misinform us, consune an inordinate amount of our time, and corrupt us morally.

XBEHERE

Why then is the WT spending man hours and expense to publish literature on their websites? Isnt that a contradiction? They are making more and more use of the internet, but becareful how much time you spend using it... hmmm

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Were You Ever Involved in A Judicial Committee Either As An Elder Or A "Sinner"?

by minimus in

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how did it turn out?.

XBEHERE

Sat on JC's too many times to count. Thank goodness I never had a hand in DF'ing anyone.

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JW's who remain in the organisation but try to reform it - pissing against the wind

by jambon1 in

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i came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of jw doctrine.. http://jwreform.org/index.html.

who do these people think they are?

do they really believe that the wts will sit up and take notice of their objections?

XBEHERE

Reform is too high of an expectation for this "religion". They are making changes though slowly. I seen a trend to more progressive thinking since the old members of the GB started dropping like flies the passed 5-10 yrs.

1. No BS (yes book study but it was bullsh*t as well)

2. More practical counsel in WT's instead of go out in service azzwhole

3. Seperating of private bullsh*t from public bullsh*t

4. More and more use of digital media, streaming media. Including talk outlines, forms, elder forms, kms, etc (this would have been unheard of if no new blood was on GB)

I am sure there are more but thats what I can think of now. They are not reforming their doctrines persay but the procedures are changing.

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Do Active Witnesses Find Meetings Exciting?

by Band on the Run in

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kh meetings were utter hell.

the boredom, particularly for a child, was awful.

i feel it was a form of child abuse.

XBEHERE

The meetings suck and they all know it. Its rehash week after week after week. Even the WT articles are based for a large part on the district convention talks. I think most people go to the meetings because they are expected to.

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How HIGH did you climb the ranks as a JW? Did you like the STATUS?

by unshackled in

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so what were your biggest jw accomplishments as a rank & file?

curious as to what level you climbed the r&f ladder while in the org, or if you still are in.. did you regular pioneer, or auxiliary pioneer?

bethel?

XBEHERE

Pioneer, MS, Bethelite, Elder- as Secretary, Service Overseer, and finally brief stint as PO several years ago. Was also used for appeal committee's occasionally by CO. Such a massive waste of f***ing time.

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KM (Elder School) Brief Highlights

by XBEHERE in

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besides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.

1. an entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the wt via.

their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine.

XBEHERE

Besides the usual drivel there were a couple interesting things.

1. An entire 1 hour discourse on helping our children become little innocent martyrs for the WT via

their flawed and unreasonable blood doctrine. They really hit this hard, prepare your children to

respect the sanctity of blood by coaching them on the scriptures that "prove" we shouldn't have

transfusions. Crossing out verbage on hospital admission forms before signing them. The speaker

went on and on. I mean really, are they serious with this??

2. Bashing college (higher education) every chance they got. Even to the point of listing for a series of questions

that the other elders would ask if a child of an appointed man were to have children go to college. They did a total 180

on their "policy" and are 100% against higher education in any form.

The WT is really pushing it with that blood doctrine. A tutorial on how to allow your children to die.... lol. come on!

I think ISOCF said it the best(paraphrasing): God wants us to santify the representation of life( blood) more than life itself. In other words

your childs picture is more important than your actual child and you are to honor it above the child. Now thats logical isnt it??

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Wow this board is still quite active!

by XBEHERE in

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i was an anemic poster but avid reader of this forum back when it was jehovahs-witness.com.

i stopped a few years back due to certain circumstances in my life.

one good thing that benefited me is that i had a break from being an elder (which was awesome) but i foolishly gave in to peer pressure from my wife and others to accept re-appointment, i know what an idiot!

XBEHERE

You'd have a high tolerance for B/S too if the alternative was listening to your brainwahsed, all be it, misguided wife asking you constantly to reach out again everyday. No WoW, play Fight Night, Vindictus (MMORPG).