Posts by XBEHERE

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just an observation

by pontoon in

i see a lot of posts about lack of zeal, slacking in fs, just going through the motions...........i have really not seen that in my old congregation up to the time i stopped attending two yrs ago, but i believe that could be the exception.

however, a bethel career sister and a young local brother, a ms and doing all the right things in the congregation (who i was friends with) stopped at my house, caught me up with chit chat and this young bro told me about his changing jobs because he wanted a retirement.

about 38 years ago when i was his age i never believed i would need a retirement in this "old system.

XBEHERE

I was baptized in the 80's and I agree with you pontoon, ones baptized 90's-2000's already didnt have much urgency. When I got out of high school in the 80's it there was no doubt that I as well as all of my classmates would be regular pioneering.

Nowdays its "hmm should I go to a university or trade school?" I can always Aux. Pioneer during the summer. Gen Y and Z witnesses really had no zeal to begin with. Generally speaking of course there are exceptions to this. I really think that after the 1995 generation change coupled with the prior relaxing of higher education resulted in a generation of jw's that didn't really care.

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another closet apostate

by outsmartthesystem in

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just thought i'd share.

a friend of mine moved away about 10 years ago.

he was a ms at the time.

XBEHERE

King I appreciate what you are saying, and I agree on some level I am not as "stong" as many of you are however I am thinking of particularly my wife and children. I am strong by staying in for them now so as not to rock the apple cart. I know it might be difficult to understand that but I sacrifice my own sanity for them.

Tooz....same answer for your comment. Why? Not for me but for them.

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another closet apostate

by outsmartthesystem in

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friends

just thought i'd share.

a friend of mine moved away about 10 years ago.

he was a ms at the time.

XBEHERE

rather be,

I mentally checked out 10 yrs ago when Barbara Anderson and Bill Bowen exposed how the WTS shielded disgusting pedophiles. That was the brick that broke down the wall for me. I still go because my entire family is in.. elders, CO's, Bethelites, etc. In addition my wife's entire family is in.. elders, ms's, special pioneers, etc.

I am not saying its easy, it isnt ,but for now until I can leave with her I stay in.

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another closet apostate

by outsmartthesystem in

jw
friends

just thought i'd share.

a friend of mine moved away about 10 years ago.

he was a ms at the time.

XBEHERE

I agree that there are many like him. I am one of them, still going to meetings, service, etc. while understanding the fallacy of the whole JW system. I wouldn't wish this method on anyone as it is extremely psychologically damaging. Encourage him to come on here and realize that he is not crazy, the wt org is.

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Have You Ever Spoken To An Elder About Your True Feelings About "The Truth"?

by minimus in

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i've has conversations with certain elder friends but i never gave them a total pummeling, at least i haven't yet.. what about you?.

XBEHERE

As an elder that would not go over so well I think. One of my best friends, an elder, would totally flip out and send other elders or CO/DO with torches and a stake after me.

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Why did you become a Jehovah's Witness ?

by Gnosis in

why did you become a jehovah's witness ?.

initially upon entering the religion what were the positive things you experienced ?.

how did that particular way of thinking both benefit and harm you ?.

XBEHERE

When I came out of the birth canal my brainwashing began, dad was alreaday a company servant.

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District Convention Points Saturday 21-07-2012 New Light? Governing Body Is Our Mother?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

i have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?

the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.

jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.

XBEHERE

I went to the DC a few weeks ago and I totally missed that point. Maybe I should have put Plaugue Inc. down on my iPhone and payed attention a little better.

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Why the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society BAN against Peace Officers serving as "Elders " for Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by Balaamsass in

in the early 80s the watchtower society began to forbid any police officer from serving as a ministerial servant, elder or even viewed as "exemplary".

at the time i was told it was because of firearms, possible bloodguilt, and being men of violence- "smiters".. as a young person it just didn't make sense to me.

i knew and liked a few peace officers who served as elders.

XBEHERE

Interesting post.. I always wondered this myself. Police Officers are exemplary in their desire to protect and uphold the law but you are correct about not using them in the congregation. Why is that? I need to do some research and find out why. It certainly cant be the gun thing because I know elders and ms's who own rifles and crossbows for hunting.

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Unbelieving Mates or Dating "Worldlings"

by XBEHERE in

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just curious if anyone here is or knows of individuals who accepted "the truth" just so they could marry a jw.

how did it turn out?

i know of one case where a jw sister started dating a wordly man.

XBEHERE

Just curious if anyone here is or knows of individuals who accepted "the truth" just so they could marry a JW. How did it turn out? Are they still in now?

I know of one case where a JW sister started dating a wordly man. Her family of course insisted that she either stop or he start studying. Eventually he studied, got baptized, they got married, he became an MS, she became a pioneer, he then became an elder....and all of a sudden she leaves him for another "worldly" person.

To this day this former elder has not spoken to another JW, he essentially became "worldly" again and she and her new hub are back in the truth... TRUTH, lol makes me feel dirty to even say it sarcastically.

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"Evidently" the New Watchtower Propoganda Buzzword is "Clearly"

by LostGeneration in

we have seen hundreds of examples of where the watchtower uses the word "evidently" to make their doctrinal point.

(page 9, para 6).

(page 19 para 5).

XBEHERE

Good points made. The average JW will never see it as a ploy to backup what they say with no evidence though. So sad...