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  Does the GB really care if the organization collapses?

  by Driving Force in

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  i am sure that the gb does not care about the r&f jw.

  it does not care about the organization collapsing overnight.. why do i say this?.

  in 2013 the organization declared that the "faithful and discreet slave" consisted only of the seven member of the gb.

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  I don't think cults are that simple to define in every situation. I really do feel that at least some of the heavies in the org really believe that they are god's channel, the true religion. It is not just about money otherwise this cult would've closed down years ago.
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  just wondering, how many wives of elders had influence?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  id wonder how many wives of servants had the upper hand so to speak, on issues, that of course, were supposed to be private, yet gee lets be honest, husbands and wives talk.

  its nature.

  so if you were a wife of a servant how much did you get involved?

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  I think that would be on a case by case basis. I am sure there are some so-called "Elderettes" that have an huge influence on individual elders (their husbands). However if their husbands are not influential on the BOE then its meaningless. If he is prominent on the BOE then yes she could control things behind the scenes as a puppet master.

  My personal opinion is that its rare.
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  just a question

  by poopie in

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  2. friends

  what percentage would you say of all jehovah's witnesses really 100 percent follow the shunning decree to the letter just answer with a percent thank you

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  30%
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  The Secret is out....but nobody cares

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

  i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

  i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

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  XBEHERE

  Welcome and thank you for "hitting the nail on the head" with your comments above. I am also serving as an active elder, also an ex bethelite, and I agree with you 100%.
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  How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please pardon if this a repeated topic.

  i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

  she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

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  Most publishers are not aware or choose to ignore it and block it from conversation. Times like this when you can really see the cultish qualities. Perfect example of cognitive dissonance.
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  Confusion over the parable of the prodigal son

  by economy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though parable of prodigal son is superlative in quality as it graphically picturizes the scientific law of cause and consequence, its conclusion defames god.

  when the prodigal son returned repentant, his father showed his delight saying: let us celebrate this by killing a fattened calf.

  (luke 15:23) such a concept (let us rejoice by giving maximum pain to another innocent living being) seems to be interpolation for the following reason:.

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  Why a JC if the adulterous mate is forgiven?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  supposing a man's wife has had an affair, confessed all and genuinely regrets what's happened.

  the husband, after much soul searching and agonising, realises how much he still loves her and how much both of them want to rebuild their shattered relationship.. why should that woman then have to sit in front of a judicial men-only committee and give a blow-by-blow account of her affair?.

  how would that make her husband feel, knowing that his wife is sharing intensely private stuff about her affair with several other guys?.

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  It is because of the WT application of

  James 5:14"Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him.…"

  What they do is apply this as confessing only to the elders while they conveniently leave out verse 16:

  "Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much"

  So confession to your spouse or another Christian is not acceptable enough to be forgiven by God even though Jesus died for our sins not them.
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  Their delusion run-ith over in today WT study rag mag.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i noticed that in paragraph 13 they mention the girl sheryl that i believe was the same girl that was in their video about the typhoon that hit the philippines back in 2013. they talk as if she's so happy and thankful to jehovah even mention that she lost most of her family in that typhoon.

  what they don't mention was her family members that were killed in that typhoon were inside a kh thinking they were going to be protected by jehovah since they were in gods house and his people and all.

  they also fail to mention that the government authorities were telling people to get out of town but the elders were most likely telling the people in their congregations to stick around and just come to the hall.

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  Crazy guy where did you read the whole story about that family? I'd like to check it out.

  Thanks
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  Rape and Child Molestation

  by NYJaye in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  how to they deal with issues of child molesters or rapist that are not witnesses?

  if a man rapes a witness that is not a witness, do they report it to the police or cover that up too?

  if there child is molested say at school, does the two witness rules apply?

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  If a JW child is assaulted by a non-JW the parents are urged to contact the police. Interesting isn't it, but if the alleged attacker is a JW its hush hush time. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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  New "donation" arrangement begins to FAIL

  by Tech49 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so here we are, almost a year into the "new" congregation donation arrangement.

  and its beginning, as was predicted, to fail miserably, and to have direct negative consequences on the poor sheep.. let me give you a little experience, directly from our congregation of about 80 publishers.

  back in may, after reading the letter about the "new" arrangement, the elder body decided to "donate" the extra funds on hand to wt, as directed.

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  XBEHERE

  The general attitude is to just get through the meeting and then get home to watch whatever was taped off the cable TV box.

  lol... did you read my mind.