Posts by NeonMadman

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Watchtower Writers - Prayer Specificity - Quantum Physics

by ataloa in

where do the watchtower writers get their information?

are they free to research anything they like?.

several years ago there was an article that said we must be specific in our prayers.

NeonMadman

According to their own publications, they get their information through angels and through resurrected members of the "anointed" class. The latter is, of course, necromancy and is forbidden by Scripture. And if they really do get their information from angels, one must wonder what sort of angels delivered the many false prophecies they have published.

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Florida woman fired for saying Merry Christmas instead of Happy holidays!

by Witness 007 in

foxnews reports that a florida woman was fired for refusing to say: "happy holidays" she insisted that as a christian she use the term christmas.

i have found others with the same view.

though one witness sister was fired from a smallgoods company for refusing to say "merry christmas.

NeonMadman

The supposed 'right not to be offended' was invented by the politically correct crowd as a means of advancing their own social agendas. We can't have public expressions of religion (including such things as wishing people a Merry Christmas) because people not of that faith might be offended by them. Unfortunately, when pushed far enough, the right not to be offended trumps every other right - the right to free speech, press, assembly, religion, etc. If I have to curb what I say because I need to worry that my speech might offend you, then I have lost my freedom of speech. Indeed, freedom of speech presupposes that some people will be offended by what others say; if such offense would never occur, then freedom of speech would never be an issue.

The other principle often raised in this context is that of the "separation of church and state." We can't have public displays of nativity scenes, for example, even if the vast majority of the people in a community want one, because non-believers might be offended, and any public display is seen as a violation of the "separation of church and state." However, such an interpretation of the separation principle is a recent distortion. The meaning of separation of church and state, as originally stated, was that the state had no power to interfere in any way with the public expression of religion. Under the original meaning of the term, a nativity scene in a town square, a valedictorian in a public high school mentioning her faith in Jesus as a source of inspiration, or a prayer said in opening a town meeting would all be expressions of the separation of church and state, not violations of it. The people's right to practice their religion in public was absolute; government had no power to prevent such things. However, in recent years, secularist judges have enforced a new meaning on the concept of separation that is 180 degrees from the meaning attached to it by the Founders.

And, if you think about it, the whole idea that religion should be kept out of the public square and should be practiced only in the privacy of one's home is a very large step toward the outlawing of religious practice entirely. In the most totalitarian anti-religious regimes of all time - Nero's Rome, Stalin's Russia, Mao's China and others - people had the freedom to worship God in the privacy of their own homes as long as nobody found out about it. Who could stop them from doing that? I disturbs me that our society seems to be headed in that same direction, where any public expression of religious faith will be seen as a crime.

Sorry, didn't mean to get off on a rant, but the implications of the whole "Merry Christmas" controversy go way beyond one time of the year, imho...

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Mouthy's" kids"please read.

by mouthy in

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friends

i received many cards from so very many, but you all have to remember i am beginning to start demntia.... i thank you all ,my apartment is surronded with them , which i have to say pleases me muchly ..... but if you didnt put your logo ( name jwd) i dont know who you are.

( 3 times for emphesis ).

god bless you all happy & healthy christmas & a new year.....

NeonMadman

Merry Christmas to you too, Grace. I'll have to get your address next time we see each other so I can add you to my card list. :-)

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Meetings canceled and double standard

by Iwonder17 in

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i live ina cold area where meetings are canceled from time to time.

i find it very funny that even the most "faithful" dubs sit in anticipation by the phone waiting for the call that the mtg has been canceled.

you would think that they would be disappointed since one of their meals is being cut off ( or one of their fingers as the old illustration goes )

NeonMadman

One night many years ago, there was a major snowstorm predicted for the area where I lived. Because of the forecasts, the elders made the decision to call the meeting off, but they waited so long to decide that half the congregation had already left for the Kingdom Hall. I got there at the same time as several others, and we were all sent away. What made it really cool was that the storm never hit - it veered off in another direction and we never had a flake of snow. So we got the evening off (mostly) without having to deal with an actual storm. After that, I believe the elders decided they would NEVER call off another meeting, no matter what, but would leave it to the individual brothers to decide whether it was safe to go or not. Which, of course, made anyone who decided not to brave a storm feel guilty.

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Banned expressions= Pioneers abused me for saying "that sucks or peeved"!

by Witness 007 in

yes as a young man on 20 out witnessing with the special pioneers one brother said his bible study wasn't home...."oh that sucks" said i......well, you would have thought i said "that sucks balls" three pioneers completely freak out and as a "trinity" start telling me off...i didn't think it was a swear word....anyone else?.

once the c.o used the term "peeved off" during his talk...well, everyone did research on the word to see if it was the same as "pissed off.

".

NeonMadman

we are supposed to call it the INFORMATION BOARD - and why?! I have no idea

As I remember, we were told that "bulletin boards" were where the popes posted their papal bulls. Obviously, true Christians would want no part of that!!

Similar to what others have said, I was counseled once for saying that something "bugged" me, because apparently that meant that the thing that had been irritating me had somehow penetrated my anus.

Also, we couldn't refer to a mischievous child as an "imp," because that was a word that referred to a type of demon.

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"This Is A Goodbye Kiss, You Dog"...

by SixofNine in

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muthathar al zaidi shouted: "this is a goodbye kiss, you dog"... .

myers reported that the man threw the second shoe and added: "this is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in iraq.".

NeonMadman

I wonder if they gave the guy his shoes back?

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EXPOSING THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY ONLINE.

by Vinny in

i still spend some time here and there exposing the wt society for what it truly is (a man originating, man run, high control religious cult-like religious institution), rather than what they tell people they are (god's appointed channel/organization/people etc).

the facts prove without a doubt that god was never behind any of this:http://www1.tip.nl/%7et661020/wtcitaten/part1.htm.

here is the link to that letter: http://newsblaze.com/story/20081209054218zzzz.nb/topstory.html.

NeonMadman

Just for the record, the post, "Who Are Jehovah's Witnesses" was plagiarized from the WT tract of the same title. No attribution was offered; the poster simply attached his own name to it as if he had written it himself. I've found this practice very common among JW's, most of whom are incapable of generating an original thought of their own if their lives depended on it.

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Ownership of Kingdom Halls secretly turned over to Watchtower org!

by kool aid man06 in

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the watchtower org.

is nothing more than a business masquerading as a religion.

the conference call this sat.

NeonMadman

Rick, is this the Chris Christiansen who published a list of questions for JW's back in the 70's? If so, that list was instrumental in raising a lot of doctrinal doubts in my mind. I don't have that list anymore and would love to get another copy, if it is still available anywhere...

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