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  Threats from the JW mafia (subtle threats)

  by thecrushed in

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  2. friends

  my dad recently found out i wasn't coming to meetings and going out in field service.

  he found an excuse to get me alone in his car and just lit into me about it.

  he said that if i'm not going out in service that i'm not one of jehovah's witnesses and the brothers won't be able to trust me when the time comes to go undercover due to being attacked by the authorities.

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  erbie

  THE CULT!
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  Threats from the JW mafia (subtle threats)

  by thecrushed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad recently found out i wasn't coming to meetings and going out in field service.

  he found an excuse to get me alone in his car and just lit into me about it.

  he said that if i'm not going out in service that i'm not one of jehovah's witnesses and the brothers won't be able to trust me when the time comes to go undercover due to being attacked by the authorities.

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  erbie

  In truth the JW's are of no concern whatsoever to the governments. The WT$ has an inflated opinion of it's own importance.

  Other than the fact that it's a mind controling cult, it's hardly worth a mention in the eyes of the governments.
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  Threats from the JW mafia (subtle threats)

  by thecrushed in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad recently found out i wasn't coming to meetings and going out in field service.

  he found an excuse to get me alone in his car and just lit into me about it.

  he said that if i'm not going out in service that i'm not one of jehovah's witnesses and the brothers won't be able to trust me when the time comes to go undercover due to being attacked by the authorities.

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  erbie

  Oh yes. The PO in my old hall in the UK was a sneaky little serpent. He was a tax inspector by day but applied his tactics inside the congregation. Just to think of him makes my skin crawl.

  Still trying to wash the dirt off my hands even now!
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  Breaking the Watchtower into Two Opossing Camps, Possible?

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is there a possibility that the watchtower will be split into two opposing camps at sometime in the foreseeable future?

  judging from the past, do we envisage such a scenario happening before our eyes?.

  scott77.

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  Yes, perhaps that's it. Maybe weare the other camp. Lets face it, most splinter groups fizzle out and die but I can't imagine a day when this site is empty.

  And it's better than starting your own cult.

  At least we can maintain our own integrity and not let someone else manage it.
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  Twelve Reasons for Preaching

  by therevealer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the june km this -.

  why do we preach and teach the good news?

  is it primarily to help honesthearted people onto the road to life?

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  erbie

  Yes, exactly. The WT mags make it all look so appealing. As you say, and as others on this site have said, it IS just a publishing business dressed up in a 'spiritual' wrapping paper.

  It's humbling to realise you've been hoodwinked!
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  Twelve Reasons for Preaching

  by therevealer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the june km this -.

  why do we preach and teach the good news?

  is it primarily to help honesthearted people onto the road to life?

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  Yes thetrueone, sadly I must accept that the above is the reality of it all. When I was a kid it seemed like a wonderful dream but in the end I had to let go of it and now, however painful, I try always to cling to reality. Which at times is uncomfortable but the only hope we have.
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  This vid MUST go viral!

  by talesin in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fzvis_uaru.

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  erbie

  Heart warming!
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Memorial of Christ’s Death

  by Greybeard in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you ever been invited to someones home for dinner, but not eaten any of the food?

  only sat there and watched them eat?

  what purpose would that serve?

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  erbie

  Yes, quite so. I have thought long and hard about this too.

  Look at it this way: Not only do they discourage us from taking part, they actually get each and every one of us to refuse to partake. Every time we are handed that highly polished silver tray and we dumbly pass it on to the next person we are openly refusing to do exactly what Jesus explicitly commanded his followers to do.

  Either they are right to get us to do that or they are extremely insidious and clever at getting us to do the opposite of what is commanded.

  I haven't quite made up my mind yet. And what would their motive be?

  Exclusivity?

  I don't know. Help me out.
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  Jesus did not die on cross, says scholar

  by leavingwt in

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  2. friends

  coming to a kingdom hall near you, in a public talk.

  jesus did not die on cross, says scholar .

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/7849852/jesus-did-not-die-on-cross-says-scholar.html.

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  Very interesting link. Many thanks.
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  Pre-emptive shunning - a growing reality

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm scanning through some of the results from the 2012 jw survey as they're coming in.. the most populous of the six voting categories with 76 voters so far is my own category, for those who are inactive, or "faded/fading" (not disfellowshipped or da'd, but no longer reporting time on the ministry).. one statistic already leaping out at me surrounds the question "do you experience 'pre-emptive shunning' from active witnesses, who view you as 'bad association'?

  " of the 74 who voted on this so far, 76% have answered "yes" to this question.. it's early days, and obviously i will have a clearer picture of the extent of the problem once the survey closes at the end of the year.

  however, the results already in suggest that pre-emptive shunning is widespread among inactive ones, despite this not being an "official" policy of the society.. i was interested in your opinions as to why this may be?

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  Yes jws, you are talking real sense. How refreshing.

  It is obvious to me that many who leave the org are struggling to find any real purpose in their lives and can only do so by castigating the WT for anything it may or may not do. My advice is as follows: If you chose to leave the WT org then you could have done it for any number of reasons, some right and some not so right. Nevertheless, you did leave and should, therefore, put it behind you and move on. This is difficult I know. However, I am firmly convinced that people who make it their own personal mission to undermine the WTS have not really left at all. In fact, they subconciously long for the peace of mind they once enjoyed and the purpose in life experienced by being a member of a world wide congregation of believers. As a result, the only contact they can have with the WTS is negative contact in the form of criticism. One must find purpose in the form of something else-something positive and creative. And if you can not find purpose in anything else then........that's probably answered the most important question you will ever ask yourself.

  Personally, I think there are a lot of ex elders on this site who long for the authority of speach they once enjoyed in the congregation but can now only chase shadows and misguided visions of idealism.

  I'm sorry, but that is the truth and we're stuck with it. I don't make the rules. I'll brace myself for an onslaught of abuse.

  erbie