Posts by erbie

Personally, I enjoyed giving talks very much as I am particular about knowing my subject inside-out. I used to love standing in at the last minute to cover for other brothers who were sick or late as this was a real challenge and would test my knowledge and personal study. I loved the adrenaline rush and the on-the-spot pressure that it incurred.

Actually, I may go back so I can do it all over again

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Isn't the new light exciting???

by wannaexit in

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well, for some jw's the gb new light is very very exciting.

in fact its the most exciting thing that has happened in a very long time.

this is what a long time jw told me.

erbie

Yes, wonderfully exiting!

I'm wrestling with the urge to do cart-wheels around the garden

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Has The Society, or Any Bro or Sis, Ever Screwed You Out Of Your Money?

by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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this thread was inspired because of 3rdgn, and her asking, on behalf of her destitute elderly widowed mom,.

for the return of her mother's "conditional loan" to the society of $20,000.00.. (this was stated today, under my thread of, "what was the effect on you of knowing hypocritical jw's?").

the society more or less yes, no, it is now our money, and you can't have it back.

erbie

No,

but time is far more precious than money...

of which they have stolen much.

They desire to suck the life out of every poor, unsuspecting individual they can.

Your money is just a side order.

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What Does Keeping The Congregation Clean Mean To The Governing Body?

by frankiespeakin in

now we all know how the governing body hates any defecters from watchtower corporation's control.

listening, obeying, and be spared alive from jehovah's wrath blah blah blah has become their new mantra sung to a liltingly slowly moving indoctrinatingly booring tune taylor made to dull the mind and not sharpen it.. so uncleaness that the congregation need to be kept clean from are things like people who celibrate birthdays, mother's day, christmas, even if you go to another church and participate the congregation needs to be cleaned from your pesents.. no gay couples, no crossdressers, no masterbaiters(they make sky daddy real sad), definately no children bringing wizzard like toys to the kingdom hall to play with(jehovah considers these an afront to his sovereignty and make him sad, striaght dope from the gb who know what jehovah feeling at all times).

ipads and other electronic devices are ok but might bring in some uncleaness especially if they watching videos of hot looking brothers signing on and on about not touching those private spots and getting all horny and stuff because jehovah don't want to be looking down from heaven and see one of his worshippers masterbaiting because he's been deprived of the experience because he's god and he ain't got no wife nor anybody to work his dingaling, he don't even ease nature at all until he has a relevation climax or something repressing all that sexual energy can make you mean i hear.. and no apostate material or looking up web sites critical of the governing body while at the kindon hall meeting facility.. no idols, visible tattoos, child molesters.. person stealing money from the contribution box, they are very unclean and considered a judas of sorts.. .

erbie

Dyson cleaner?

It's gonna take more than that!

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If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

by slimboyfat in

the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

erbie

I have been following this thread over the last couple of days and have been thinking about the implications if such a doctrinal change should take place. All those poor people who have been labelled as 'apostates' for believing the number 144000 to be symbolic!!!

I do hope you are correct sbf because if you are, it will make them look very silly indeed!

Thumbs up all round...

I look forward to hearing more and thank you for a great thread.

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Did a householder at the door ever cause you doubts

by perfect1 in

recently on a saturday morning there was a knock on my door.

two ladies asked me if i was familiar with the jws.

i said: yes unfortunatley.

erbie

Yes, I had a conversation one morning with a Born Again Christian who had previously been a member of the Plymouth Bretheren. She told me that I seemed very genuine and sincere and should examine the Bible more closely and that I should leave the WT$ for exactly the same reasons that she had left the PB.

I have to admit, those were early days for me but I told her that I did agree with a lot of what she was saying. A few fellow witnesses who had been listening to our conversation looked more than a little concerned when I finally rejoined them.

Much water has passed under the bridge since then and I would love to talk to that kind lady again.

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Recent Global Cooling Controversy

by metatron in

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/global-cooling-arctic-ice-caps-grows-60-global-warming-predictions.html.

climate change is a legitimate concern - especially as it affects poor nations.

however, the subject has been twisted by greedy global elites resulting in disappointments (if you wish to call them that!

erbie

For all the people on here who are anti SUV, some of us need an SUV because of where we live (due to flooding and snow etc. or as a work vehicle). The road tax on my 4x4 is now over £500 per annum!!!

I'm punished for living where I do and for having a profession that requires that I drive accross rough terrain. I guess they would like us all to drive tiny cars but that is simply not an option for me.

Trust me, I would love to walk to work but until I can semi-retire that will not happen.

Yes indeed, there is a lot of money being made from so called 'carbon tax' and still we have more pot-holes than ever because the money does not get used for what it is intended.

And what the hell has road tax got to do with emissions anyway???

This is a rediculous idea formulated by the last Labour government and is in fact just another feature of their 'class war' which was waged on people living in the countryside who drive SUV's and ride their horses.

Good riddance to them (New Labour) and may they never return!!!

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Adjustments In Understanding--2013/7/15/Watchtower!

by Atlantis in

this file is being passed around by jehovah's witnesses concerning adjustments in understanding the 2013/7/15/watchtower.

the first draft they prepared had a typing error, and nevada sent the draft back to the jws for correction.

they corrected the typing error and sent it back to nevada.

erbie

Studying all this stuff is rather like using a Monopoly game to get a feel for the property market.

I'm sorry folks, but I just can't see any sense in any of it.

I'm thinking...

Cult!!!

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Facepalm What do you make of this cultish email I just got from my JW friend? What do I say to her?

by Julia Orwell in

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a bit of background: she is a sweet sister who has hard a really hard life: mum killed in an accident when she was young while once-an-elder dad was off having an affair after having been released from jail after serving time as a pedophile; she spent months in hospital after the accident which killed her mother; brothers jailed as pedos, ex husband left her cold with their 6 month old son- she's had a tough life and is a really sweet lady.

she's intelligent, caring, forgiving and articulate.

far too good for jws.. she 'brought me into the truth' as they say, and as such we've always had a pretty good bond.. now, after the gossip/slander fiasco of another so-called friend running around telling everyone i'm an apostate and not to talk to me, i unfriended my jw friends from facebook with an explanation.

erbie

I have been through all of this myself Julia and in the end, no matter how close you are to Witness friends, the religion will usually divide people and you will go your own way and they will fixate over something or someone else. I had many long term JW friends (I think they were friends) but the religion is the very thing that divides us and as with me, in time you will be amazed at how much you have changed and moved on and how they have remained the same.

Whenever I meet an old witness 'friend' in town I am truly astounded at there being no change in them. They do not seem to grow and it is the very organization they follow that, out of its own insecurity, prevents its followers from advancing for fear they will out-grow the leaders.

We had an elder in our congregation who said that " sometimes, the best thing to do is to do nothing at all". That is probably the best piece of advice I ever heard at a Kingdom Hall and I applied it when leaving the JW's.

In short, you could argue/correspond with them from now until doomsday to no avail as people will believe what they want to believe and if they are to see the truth about the truth then they must do it in their own time.

I think it is hard for them because, as they watch you leave, they somehow feel that they are being left behind which, of course, they are.

I wish you the very best.

erbie