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  Yet another "Shunning is good for you, honest!" quote in the June 15th 2013 Watchtower

  by cedars in

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  hi folks.

  that's right, the new june 15th 2013 study edition is out now on this link.... http://download.jw.org/files/media_magazines/28/w_e_20130615.pdf.

  the following quote caught my eye, from the final study article on page 28.... .

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  erbie

  So, by his own admission, he went back for the reason of association?

  They seem to approve of that.

  That's very enlightening.
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  jehovahs witnesses and psychiatric diagnoses?.

  today i added a new article to my blog sharing information from a 1983 study published in the journal for the scientific study of religion addressing religious affiliation and psychiatric diagnoses.

  this article pulls information from an excellent academic study that is often misunderstood and therefore underutilized for its value.

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  erbie

  In many ways it really is a 'refuge' for persons with mental health issues, uneducated, socially disfunctional, simple, naive etc.

  The list is endless.

  Neverajw made the point earlier that he would not attempt to awaken the person and I totally agree as it is rather like awakening someone from the Matrix (no joke intended).

  Some people are genuinely happier and perhaps healthier within the confines that the cult has placed around them.

  I have personally made people 'aware' of the duplicity of the WT and they have ended up hating me for it.

  It is good to expose untruth in general but some individuals are very delicate and this should be kept in mind.

  I always think of the Dr. Who episode in which the Cyber-Men become concious of the fact that they were once human with the result that they are unable to live with the pain of that recollection.

  I know it is a simple parallel but I remember watching it with my kids and immediately making that connection.

  I too have suffered since my departure and have, on occaision, felt the urge to return.

  I now realize that this was due to a lack of purpose and attainable goals in the REAL world and I have take steps to remedy this.

  Successfully I hope...
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  The CO asked for money tonight at the meeting.

  by life is to short in

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  i was shocked i do not know why as i have read that the co's were doing this but to hear it with my own ears was unbelievable.

  i do not go to the meetings but my husband still does and this week is the co's visit.

  i decided that i would listen in to his talk; i swear i have lost some brain cells by doing it but anywho.. he started out by talking about the old story that has been in the wt many times about a little boy who was seven and raised a chicken and gave the money to the society.

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  Wasblind-

  I may not get there but that's not gonna stop me storing up treasures in heaven.

  Either that, or I could build a new grain store.

  What do you think?
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  The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

  by Dogpatch in

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  dear randall.

  good morning!.

  here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

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  erbie

  Tis a bloomin shame.

  I was hoping they would bring back miracle wheat.

  We could all do with some of that!!!
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  The CO asked for money tonight at the meeting.

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was shocked i do not know why as i have read that the co's were doing this but to hear it with my own ears was unbelievable.

  i do not go to the meetings but my husband still does and this week is the co's visit.

  i decided that i would listen in to his talk; i swear i have lost some brain cells by doing it but anywho.. he started out by talking about the old story that has been in the wt many times about a little boy who was seven and raised a chicken and gave the money to the society.

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  How much does he need???

  Only, the household bills take up most of my earnings but I'm sure that if me and the kids went hungry I could spare him a little.

  Probably not enough to prop up the org but hey, every little helps!

  And...I'd be storing up treasures in heaven
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  Early church fathers

  by Rattigan350 in

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  in a post by leolaia she stated:.

  then the trinity brochure came out and i almost immediately became upset at its intellectual dishonesty, as by this time i was very familiar with the early church fathers and recognized that the brochure distorted heavily their views.. .

  early church fathers and their views?

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  With you on that one soontobe.
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  Early church fathers

  by Rattigan350 in

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  in a post by leolaia she stated:.

  then the trinity brochure came out and i almost immediately became upset at its intellectual dishonesty, as by this time i was very familiar with the early church fathers and recognized that the brochure distorted heavily their views.. .

  early church fathers and their views?

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  The Early Christian Writings are very interesting to read. You can buy them as a Penguin Classic.

  The Didache (meaning 'teaching') is generally dated from around 40-60 AD which would make it older than some of the canon.

  In Philippians a certain Clement is mentioned (not to be confused with Clement of Alexandrea!).

  Some belive this to be Clement who was the first Bishop of Rome whereas some do not.

  In any case, church history is very interesting, unlike WT history
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  "It is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the Bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight"

  by WildeLover in

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  in another thread phizzy made an interesting point.

  it is so obvious to someone just doing a cursory study of the bible that they simply have no idea of how to read and understand it, let alone any real insight.. .

  i am curious as to some simple yet strong points the wbtrash socierty have so very obviouslsy and clearly oten wrong?.

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  WBTrash Company...

  That's so cool!
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  Alternative Watchtower

  by jonno12225 in

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  heres a thought expereiment.. what do you think the watchtower would be like if it had started in europe instead of america.. in europe at the time of the 1800's you had an interesting period of social, political and scientific change.

  womens rights movenment were making strides in bettering their standing in society.

  many religious institutions welcomed darwins explanation of evolution over time.. how do you think this back drop would have influenced the religions precursers and founders?

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  At that time America was the perfect fertile soil in which a cult can take root.

  I really don't think that it would ever have been conceived in Europe...

  At least I hope not.
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  How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.

  as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?

  surely education should come first.

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  I am now in my 40s and studying at university.

  This is a great topic and one that we all seem to feel very stongly about.

  They really did screw us over didn't they!