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  Feeling disloyal

  by stirred but not shaken in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been visiting here for about a year or so, but didn't really feel compelled to participate other than reading the various posts that interested me.. there's been that uncomfortable feeling of being disloyal to god, the organization, many friends and relatives.. i've been associated since birth.

  after 65 + years of service within this organization and actually enjoying that time, it troubled me to find myself wanting to express feelings that were contrary to all that time of "faithfulness".

  those years were filled with progressive "privileges and responsibilities" even at a high level, and there was considerable success in our evangelizing activity.

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  NewYork44M

  Welcome and WOW! I look forward to your insights as time progresses.

  Best
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  Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

  by ShempLives in

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  xjw protests & videos.

  .. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

  this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

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  NewYork44M

  Some of the things I see is not my style, but I don't think any of these embarrass me. My approach is very different but I can see why some may have a different approach; whether I agree or disagree is irrelevant.

  I got my own stinkin problems and can worry what others do.

  Someone looking to leave will look at the body of information out there and never based their decision on any one specific pissed of ex jw. To think otherwise is kind of silly.
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  It is now 2003.... Where is Armageddon?

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find it extremely amusing how each year is passing without armageddon.

  "for the year 2000, i visualize a world transformed into a beautiful paradise!

  but i don't think that either the present world or its rulers will live to see that day.. we are living in the last days of the system of things.

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  NewYork44M

  Just checking in May 4th 2014. No Armageddon here in NYC.

  May the fourth be with you...

  And by the way it is my birthday. I am 57, which means that I was 18 and a highschool graduate in 1975.
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  Did you ever write your disassociation letter?

  by make yourself in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  but never gave it to the elders or anyone in the congregation?

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  NewYork44M

  I did not write a letter. In the process of leaving I moved a few times; so I am not sure what my status is, nor do I care. I may still be an elder in one of the congregations. The last congregation I attended really has no idea who I am.

  I have no desire to wrap things up with my Watchtower life. Not that I am thinking of going back but becuase closing the books only serves the purposes of the Watchtower, not me. I have moved on and really care about leaving a farewell message.

  If anyone is intersted they can review the body of the comments I have made here over the past 13 years.

  And by the way, it is my birthday - so Happy birthday to me!!
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  What if you were a member of the GB and you woke up

  by enigma1863 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what if you were a member of the gb and you woke up and realized it's all bs.

  what would you do?

  i would try to change the org from within..

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  NewYork44M

  If I was in control of a multibillion $ organization and woke up. Would I try to change it? Not the religions side, what would be the point. Changing the belief system is somewhat irrelevant... It doesn't matter - what matters is $$$$$

  What I would do would be to secure assets and my position. If I needed to change to secure assets I would make the necessary changes. I would do the exact things we see happening now.

  - Do away with as much printing as possible - too expensive.

  - Create a legal barrier between the corporation and the idiot elders that get everyone in trouble.

  - Force congregations to turn over property (Kingdom halls and assembly halls) to the corporation.

  - Encourage volunteerism to reduce the cost of the corporation's realestate empire.

  I suspect that the people in charge (really in charge) already know the religion is crap. They are doing what they need to do to secure assets, reduce risk, and find revenue streams for continued growth.
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  Another night, another JW dream

  by MrMonroe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  such a ripoff when you dream you're back at the damn meetings.

  i once dreamed a local (rather liberal-minded) elder, jack hoogendoorn, was smoking a cigar while he was giving a talk on the platform.. last night i was back there again: one elder who suddenly decided he was going to be "encouraging" gave me the latest stats on baptisms, while someone else i was meant to go witnessing with was not-so-subtly probing me about how many magazines i'd been placing lately.

  i chose not to tell them i had decided against placing mags any more.

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  It is quite common to have dreams about going to the meeting and out in service. If I am in service I am trying to figure out how to get away. I can remember dreams where I have given talks, been asked to say a prayer. I have had long conversations in my dreams with people I remember. It is surprising how much usless knowledge is stored in the recesses of my brain and only comes out when I dream.
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  Anyone have the answer sheet for the TMS Review this week?

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. bible

  just wondering.. my wife will be very impressed by "apostate power" if you can come through with this.

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  NewYork44M

  I think that would be cheating.
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  What happens to marriages upon the arrival of Armageddon?

  by insearchoftruth in

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  2. beliefs

  a couple of paradise earth questions: .

  1) if you are a married, baptized witness couple (both people being baptized) and armageddon arrives, will the couple still be married on paradise earthtm?

  2) if you are married to an unbelieving mate (ubm) and armageddon arrives, will the witness be free to remarry on paradise earth?.

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  NewYork44M

  I have heard so much speculation around this issue. Much of the speculation relates to the wishes and hopes of the individuals.

  In the end all of it is nothing.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses table witnessing WTF

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  2. beliefs

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  apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.

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  NewYork44M

  I would love confirmation, thanks talesin
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  Jehovah's Witnesses table witnessing WTF

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.

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  NewYork44M

  If these are all photoshopped, then is all I got to say - I don't know whether to scream or eat a bananna. Perhaps table witnessing are just too irresitable for the creative minds to pass up.

  In any event it is funny.