i was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?
etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.
i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.
There already is little growth.
Last year the org had a net gain of about 118,000.
That is barely above population growth. Also much of number were kids of JW parents getting baptized. That is why we have the emphasis now (after over 100 years) that anyone not a toddler should be baptized (thank Tony the PTSD Morris.
follow case it may change judicial comittees
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.
so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..
I thought they specifically said that they were done with that when they condemned type/antitype interpretation
If you noticed they said that - but have continued on that line without stopping.
the memorial is on march 23 this year.
but all the official jewish calendars has nissan 14 as april 22!
april 22 is the start of passover!
have you ever been to a circus and seen a "clown car"?.
the little "bug" volkswagon drives out and clowns get out.
lots and lots and lots and lots of clowns!.
My question is - Who Counted?
And why is it always a round number?
Do Demons only come in groups of a 1000?
the memorial is on march 23 this year.
but all the official jewish calendars has nissan 14 as april 22!
april 22 is the start of passover!
What would the Jews know about Passover over the WT org?
Not like they were the ones who invented Passover....
... oh
however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
Exhaustive compilation of evidence, complete with references, for god below:
i don't post here too much..i am more of a lurker.
but, wanted to share recent conversation with jw family member.. one of my jw relatives recently went to visit another jw relative that is "serving where the need is great",.
when my jw relative returned home and i was talking with him, who is an older jw who has been in for over 50 years, was so excited to tell me about the special talk.
WHAT A DELUSIONAL JOKE! The catholic church has more money locked up on one wall in the Vatican Museum than the WT has in its 100 year history.
SO FUNNY
That one goes along with: (other claims from assemblies and COs)
Most Attractive people.
Most Intelligent
Most Peaceful
Best Educated
Most Innovative (MEPS)
Most Generous
Most Charitable
Most Loving (how do you measure that one?)
Most Gullible ( oh sorry that's mine:)
p.s I read the Catholic Church rakes in over 20 Billion in donations every year.
one of the most common thing thrown at atheists is - lots of intelligent people believe in god.
this darkmatter 2525's video is an excellent explanation as to why very logical people possess religious belief systems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.
1. Like the video - when you have that belief ingrained in you as a kid, its hard to let go of it.
2. No one wants to think when they die that there is nothing else.
just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.
i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.
My father-in-law a long time respected elder (who has ALL the old books) once just told me - "we used to believe some funny things" to say as if now things are so much better.
He just chalks it up to - the light getting brighter...
And NO - no one knows or cares. You have to be an Old Timer to even know.
Most people dont even know or care about the insanity in the "revelation book" that we studied 4 times.
Most people are newish to the Org - or - just dont care about old "truths" that are not true now.
