There was a congregation near me (elders were like nazis) who from the platform an elder told a dating ADULT couple that one of them should move their seat.
No not at all a cult.
just found out that in the congregation we used to attend there are two young brothers, both are sons of elders and recently engaged to girls in neighboring congregations.
instructions are that they may not sit together at assemblies or meetings.
but get this….they can’t even ride in the same car even if their parents are also in the car.
There was a congregation near me (elders were like nazis) who from the platform an elder told a dating ADULT couple that one of them should move their seat.
No not at all a cult.
this book has been recommended to me a few times.
is it worth reading?.
how could i get a copy without paying the massive amount stated on amazon and ebay?
In a word YES!
in the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.
what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?
does anybody really care ?.
when online looking at the recent wt there was a link to this..https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/are-there-contradictions-in-the-bible/.
here are the "big" ones they disproved - though not really:).
if god rested on the seventh day, how has he continued working?where did jesus heal the blind man?will the earth be destroyed?in capernaum, who brought the centurion’s request to jesus?do we all sin?is jesus equal to god or lesser than god?.
When online looking at the recent WT there was a link to this..
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/are-there-contradictions-in-the-bible/
Here are the "big" ones they disproved - though not really:)
If God rested on the seventh day, how has he continued working?
Where did Jesus heal the blind man?
Will the earth be destroyed?
In Capernaum, who brought the centurion’s request to Jesus?
Do we all sin?
Is Jesus equal to God or lesser than God?
I think they left a few out:)
it's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.
we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.
so why slay the sheep or beast?????
The bible is a load of really badly written contradictory crap.
i always found it interesting that one could appeal a disfellowshipping....if jehovah doesn't make mistakes, then there wouldnt be a need to "appeal" anything to begin with right?.
Something that most JWs dont know is that if you Appeal your DFing and they uphold it - you can then Appeal to the Branch.
so, the watchtower study article, "making christian marriage a success" can best be enjoyed when reading it in the language of nigerian pidgin.
) e good make love dey make the two of dem think about how the other person dey feel and wetin e need.
3:7) e no good make dem force each other but make their body first move dem to do am.
WHat the heck?
Now I know where George Lucas got Jar Jar Binks from. Not Naboo.
so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.
it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.
https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.
Its so sad, what kind of jerk is that guy?
Imagine what kind of a GUY would want to catch an important sport event?
Really after washing the dishes he should devote himself to prayer.
And it is hard to imagine what was going through that dear sisters mind.
Sure she lives in a mansion - sure she seems to have lived her live wanting for nothing - sure her parents probably have multiple cars that match the type of lifestyle their home depicts (Mercedes), but let's get real - what kind of young man is interested in cars and soccer and basketball? I have never met one, have you?
Surely Jesus didnt watch soccer nor look online for a cool BMW.
She was right to dump him and wait for someone who is only going to be devoted to an imaginary god.
Life will be so great for her now!
It was SOOOO BALANCED for the brother to let us know that we should not expect PERFECTION in a marriage mate. So True!
this is my first time posting on here so i’m not sure where to start.
i’m trying to keep it as short as possible since i could expand much more.
i’ve been in the process of waking up in the last year and a half.
One thing to do is to openly talk about all the BS and what must be the case in all Elder Bodies - horrible dumb decisions - disagreements - and stupidity.
Also talk about the things the really bother you as an elder - the lack of love - the opposite of what jesus would do with helping people - how you feel like a cop and not a shepherd - how really the is NO training on how to really help people - just to strong arm them.
Talk about the policies that now shift the Legal Burden on elders and shield the GB - talk about how the Sex Abuse rules are stupid - and the 2 witness rule is crap.
Talk about how you are frustrated as an elder - and how it should not be this way - and how its TOP DOWN that creates this.
If nothing else happens - she will understand why you want to "Resign" as an elder in time.
So seeds of doubt at this level is a better first step than just hitting doctrine.
i have far too many to name, but ill start with obscene music, gambling and cussing like a sailor.
all the while preaching to "worldly people" about their impending death at armageddon.
thoughts?.
To many to list - and the sex abuse stuff is hard to top.
But what about this.
CO's forcing me and my interviews to change their real life stories for Convention parts, to make it fit exactly what he wants to show.