Posts by ttdtt

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

ttdtt

Chook hit it right on the nose.
( i remember thinking and saying it too, so let's not forget may of use were there at some point.)

They are just hedging their bets, so as to justify not waisting their lives

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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."

by HereIgo in

i was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.

does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?

or is that just my wishful thinking?

ttdtt

Funny at a circuit assembly about 5 years back, a DO brought that up in a talk.

He pointed out how the was BAD reasoning.
How if it wasn't the Truth - you are wasting your time and should be looking elsewhere.

Of course, he spent the rest of the talk identifying why it was the Truth.

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This convention talk offended me

by Isambard Crater in

here are my notes from the r.c yesterday, the talk called "jehovah – the greatest example of endurance".

many of you will understand why i found it offensive.. jehovah has taken the hard option of choosing to endure:.

reproach to his holy name.

Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

?.

ttdtt

haaaaa thats funny!

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Spirit directed vs inspired

by Jules Saturn in

i've always been confused as to what the discrepancy is between the phrases "spirit directed/spirit led" and "inspired".

in the february 2017 watchtower study article, paragraph 12 says:.

12 the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

ttdtt

Assuming that you actually "believe" the bible is from god.

Look back at the "servants" of god, how many times did god give them the WRONG understanding or direction on something?

NEVER - his direction - leanings - inspired prophets - never had to go back and say - UH Sorry I Think God Meant THIS not THAT.

Think of this - on really the most important matter - the ID of the FDS - how could it take 100 years for god to DIRECT them as to who they really are.

I mean come on.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

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Cofty - I HATE that word.

When I was still an elder and working on my Fade - I almost NEVER said it, even in talks.

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

ttdtt

and Long hair girl,

I was not offended - just telling my considered experience.

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

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snugglebunny

It just went on and on. One courting couple I knew believed that anal sex was OK as it was a non-divorceable offence if performed outside of marriage so therefore obviously not a disfellowshipping offence either. No confession required!

Man talk about making the BEST out of a hard situation! Kudos to them!!!

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

ttdtt

LongHasirGirl - I have to disagree a bit. I think the confidentiality depends on the congregation and the elders.

I was an elder a long time, and we did very well not talking out of turn.

True it's not foolproof, and some people like to show they are big shots about what they know.

I think what happens more often is that people put 2 and 2 together and think someone f#cked around. And that's true 90% of the time.

Don't get me wrong - JWs are the BIGGEST Gossip Whores you will ever find.

I have experience that to a large degree after fading.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

ttdtt

One thing you learn as a JW is why all other religions are FALSE.

You get to see all their contradictions and lies and stupid beliefs.

Now when you come to realize that the WT is the same as them, it's hard to not think of organized religion the same way as Marx did.

The reality of all this hits you hard.