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  Water on Mars (Possibly life)

  by pleaseresearch in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this has been an interesting story in the news recently.. just thinking, if in a few years time they drill down and discover water on mars and also some form of life.

  does that for you destroy the bible in anyway?.

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  They even Admit Neanderthals Existed.

  EverApostate - Ok I have been out for a few years - but I NEVER EVER heard that nor saw it in print.
  Please explain!!
  
  
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  Views on the golden ratio??

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?

  i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.

  i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.

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  I am a designer and I use that principle all the time in design. Has nothing to do with god.

  Its like how when it comes to visuals and say slogans or taglines - groups of 3 work best with the human mind.

  i.e. Just Do It. I'm loving it. Imagination at work. Every Little Helps. Finger lickin' good. Taste the rainbow. Snap Crackle Pop.

  BIG WARNING ALL - The human mind finds patterns even when they are not there. I.E. seeing Elvis in a piece of toast. THIS IS A GIANT PLUS as a result of evolution, and it is a GIANT NEGATIVE because that's why we have superstition and the persistence of religion.

  Listen to this its good: https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/brain-seeks-patterns-where-none-exi-08-10-03/

  FYI: Did you know that when it comes to Beauty, and this works in all cultures. The people we generally feel are the most beautiful are mathematically the MOST AVERAGE.

  If you take a million faces - and digitize the size and location of all features, the AVERAGE of all those are the people we feel are the most beautiful. I thought that was very interesting.
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  No new releases? How are the r&f taking this?

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is it true that there's been no new releases at this summer's convention?

  if so it will be the first convention in decades perhaps ever to not produce at least a new tract.. how are the r&f explaining this to eachother?

  surely they must have noticed the absence?

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  Remember how the LAST international convention was "gonna be a historic event that you would talk about in the new system".

  Remember getting together and making little crap tchotchke bags for all the "friends" from abroad.

  Remember how it was going to be LIFE CHANGING????
  
  Yea I don't either, it was actually one of the worst DCs ever and were at the main one in the States.

  I dont know, somehow the WT has figured out how to create Mass Amnesia year by year.
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  Jehovah`s Witnesses Do Not Have a Clergy Class.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no , they have the governing body { some would say the popes of the religion }.

  and you do not under any circumstance go against what they say./ .

  they also have branch overseers , district overseers .circuit overseers , and elders in a congregation .. they are all up and above the rank and file of the average ordinary jehovah`s witness and they are looked upon as such by the rank and file member as equivalent to a clergy class.. oh and lets not forget the legal department that has a lot to say in how the jehovah`s witness organization responds to allegations of child sexual abuse around the world.. and when an allegation arises about child sexual abuse the w.t.

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  As a prominent Elder - I felt like I was part of a clergy class.

  I got perks - I got tons of adulation - I got treated very different.

  Just no money:)
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  Do Circuit Overseers outrank Elders? Why can't they talk to disfellowshipped people?

  by garyneal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  last sunday, our family went to the kingdom hall and i realized that this was the week that the circuit overseer was in town.

  when we sat down, i noticed he came over and talked to her then he walked away i guess to talk to others.

  a few minutes later, he returned to tell her that he could not talk to her because he was informed that she was disfelloshipped.

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  They do (of course they do without a question, anyone who says different is completely wrong) - and they can talk to DFed people, so can elders.

  What makes you think otherwise?
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  It is all BS.
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  Nowadays How Does One Become An Elder?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i was appointed jan 1 1980 and back then it was a big deal to“qualify”.

  i was the youngest elder appointed in the district!

  i actually studied everything from the societies publications and listened to anything i was told to do.

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  Kiss ass.

  I have seen the MOST unqualified men become elders by kissing ass and doing the 3 basic things you have to do.

  I am talking guys who could not speak in complete sentences.

  Guys who have NO command of the "scriptures" let alone understand their meaning.

  Guys who do not have the judgment of an average 10-year-old.

  And these are the ones educating and judging the sheep.
  It was intolerable, and being in their company was crushing.

  One such "brother" after proving he had NO right to even be a servant, over and over again, became an elder just because he had been trying so long, and the COBE just didn't want to say no anymore.
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  JW's All Over the Earth ...

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... are standing at trolleys every day - millions of hours every year - and never approach people with the "good news" - as per the instructions of the self-proclaimed "faithful slave" in the usa.. the forked tongue of the wt serpent speaks yet again:.

  w16 may pp.

  8-9 pars.

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  This scripture comes to mind.

  
  We are, for we are not peddlers of* the word of God+ as many men are, but we speak in all sincerity as sent from God, yes, in the sight of God and in company with Christ.
  
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  The Repression and Expression of Anger Among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by john.prestor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something which i always found surprising when i attended the kingdom halls i studied was how angry, even vicious, many jehovah's witnesses could become when a watchtower study featured some persons and/or institutions the organization disapproved of, say, higher education and educators, christendom and its clergy, apostates, etc.

  many seemed to sadistically enjoy denigrating these persons or institutions when the watchtower study conductor called on them and they were handed a microphone.

  i wondered for a long time where this anger came from, and i've developed a hypothesis for explaining this.. according to a book i'm reading by alice miller called "for your own good: hidden cruelty in child-rearing and the roots of violence," children who are strictly controlled and abused (whether emotionally or physically) typically go on to unleash the anger they inevitably felt at their parents, but were never allowed to express, at their children or those around them.

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  I agree completely.

  I can tell you I have seen many elders act so cruel to those they were supposed to protect. They live these lives where they control nothing and have been deprived of so much.

  Well, the one thing they can control is the lives of the sheep. Love and understanding and forgiveness got set aside because of the frustration and anger that lives deep inside them, and they took it out on the sheep who needed love and care. Thus I saw how elders instead of showing understanding and mercy for a young sister who - dared to have sex - and then felt so guilty she confessed, called horrible things. Called "hot to trot" and "a sexpot". And funny enough I know that they lusted after her.

  Frustration and anger in the hands of uneducated, power hungry, fearful men is a recipe for disaster and much pain.

  I could go on and on with what I hated when I was an elder.

  Oh, and by the way, I was not immune to these feelings and actions.
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  "We're involved in a life saving work"?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as my wife left for fs this morning (aka gossip and coffee time with her friends) she mentioned to me that one of the parts in the clam meeting this week was:.

  to remind the 'faithful' that, "we are involved in a life saving work!".

  so i just calmly mentioned to her that if he really wanted to, jehoober could save thousands of lives every day just by controlling the weather or providing just clean water or just a just a few loaves and fishes!.

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  The JW from my Cong were doing the Tract work yesterday in on my block.
  I was heading out so I said brief hellos to the 3 sisters who were right there.

  Life-saving work ha.

  Even when I was IN - I thought it was a colossal waste of time inviting people to the District Convention during the month campaign.

  Seriously - we could NOT get RVs and Bible Study to come for a 45 min Talk in the same town, and we were going to get people in the town to drive to a freak show convention 1 hr away?
  
  I was just happy doing it because it was so EASY to fake it.

  I always HATED service - and faked it as much as possible - even when I was a Pioneer.