Posts by ttdtt
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Evolution and Atheism - please help
by Fernando innot being familiar with either, my question is:.
what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.
i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..
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Fernando - please go to Wikipedia :) -
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Disfellowshipped for celebrating Xmas?
by Theburstbubble ini could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.
we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.
we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!
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As an X-Elder - I agree with Tailspin - it depends on how big a bug your elders have up their collective ass.
Also if family tells, how small your territory is, if you were in a prominent or long time family. In reality the more years away the safer. Just do what you want to do as Low Key as possible.
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LOOK! Something new and shiny!
by stuckinarut2 inisn't it amazing just how easily distracted the average witness is?.
with the flood of stuff being produced and uploaded on the website, from embarrassing corny videos and songs, to music for kids, to cartoons etc, the average witness has no time to actually stop and think about the actual doctrines or facts about the organisation.
nor the past, nor the scandals being exposed by real news outlets and media.
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stuckinarut2
You are right - its all about distraction and keeping people so so busy now. Anything to keep them from having time to process the bullshit and contradictory messages they send out all the time.
In fact - I don't think there are 5% of JWs who could even explain the current beliefs accurately.
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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?
by tor1500 ini've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
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So instead of god using his super powers to makes sure children are NOT raped by elders and ministerial servants, he uses his universe creating power to make sure the authorities cannot take action against sex criminals so they can stay safe in the loving arms of the org?
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Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?
by stuckinarut2 inso witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
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There could be nothing more natural than a parent wanting to acknowledge the anniversary of their child's birth.
Unlike some other celebrations, birthdays are a no brainer!!! It is stupid to use the 2 events in the bible that had bad things happen at a birthday to be a guide. It does not hold up.
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Good NYT article on gravitational waves discovery
by done4good inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/science/ligo-gravitational-waves-black-holes-einstein.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=homepage&clicksource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&wt.nav=top-news&_r=0.
probably the biggest find since the higgs.. d4g.
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Those aren't gravitational waves! It's just god farting! -
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Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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I think one of the funny parts of his chart is that it shows the time from today to the Great Tribulation about equal to all the time where you see the "anointed" in the pink strips. Then they wondered why people would think the End wasn't coming next Tuesday. -
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Where do I start telling a psychologist about the mental trauma I feel as a fading jw?
by Simple Minds ini am on a pension, so i could not afford to pay for a psychologist, but my good doctor referred me to a free clinic for people on a low income, for my anxiety and depression, so i have finally got my first appointment with a psychologist since i started my fade, so where do i start trying to explain the mental trauma i feel as a fading jw?
i would appreciate your advice.
simple .
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When is a theory 'just a theory'?
by HB inthe titles of cofty's excellent recent posts are all preceeded by the words "evolution is a fact...".
richard dawkins is encouraging people to use the term 'fact' in relation to evolution, especially when debating with creationists as the word 'theory' is confusing to many, and the latter often takes the discussion off on an often unproductive tangent.
the following may be of interest, it's from the bbc website - part of a regular series of articles called 'the vocabularist', discussing the origin and meaning of words: .
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Faith can be put in the same category. Belief in a superior being takes just as much faith as believing in evolution.
I disagree with the above completely. Belief in a god takes way more faith. Evolution isn't just a bunch of words in a book that you have to take at face value. Evolution has literally hundreds of millions of pieces of evidence. It stand the test of the Scientific Method. It is undeniable by examination of DNA which even 10 years ago was not possible.
Whereas, belive in some kind of a god - had NO proof nor any evidence. People believe in a good because in the end it makes you feel good, and you don't have to learn anything - just believe.
There is the same amount of evidence for Jehovah as there is for Allah or Shiva. NONE.
That by the way is the definition of Faith. Belief with NO evidence.
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Do not Disassociate, Anull your baptism
by jwfacts ini am now a jedi, so trust me on this.. .
why dis-associate, you are just playing by the wts rules?
how can you dis-associate anyway, you never thought you were baptised as a watchtower society member, you thought your dedication was to god, so why formally disassociate from something you did not formally join?
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This really does nothing. You still get shunned.