Posts by ttdtt

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Midweek meeting

by loneranger in

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almost two months into the change in format of the mid week meeting from the school and service meeting format to the christian life and ministry (clam) format.

in my congregation, seems attendance is down 10-15% over the normally low attendance for the mid week meeting before the change.

some indicate that the meeting under the clam format is very "intense"...you really need to study and research to be able to participate or get anything out of the meetings.

ttdtt

The are so boring. There is NO value in them at all (from a JW perspective that is).

Schedule:

Treasures from Dogs Word:
10 min talk - here are the 3 things we want you to tell the congregation.

Digging for crap: Here are the points we want you to know.

Apply yourself to wandering around in a Car on saturday:

Mindless videos - or 3 "demo talks" of the same thing with pointless "counsel" after.

Living as X-tians

Pointless talk

Book Study - "we know you are almost asleep and parents with little kids are frustrated - that's why we put the most boring long part at the end. (Your Loving christian cult leaders)"

THE THINKING BEHIND THIS NEW MEETING SCHEDULE IS BAT-CRAP-CRAZY

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A question on natural selection

by The Rebel in

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last friday my boy of ten was very late back from school, so i called the school, they called the police, and to cut a long horrible exsperience short he had been helping a younger boy fly his kite.. but what has occurred to me is that when orlando was 5 years old he was totally dependent on mummy and daddy, whilst horses, cats, birds and other animals are born and are independent within days.. so my question on natural selection is, how are we humuns still here?.

the rebel..

ttdtt

The Rebel - you will find a good answer in this article.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/why-humans-give-birth-to-helpless-babies/

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Evolution and Atheism - please help

by Fernando in

not being familiar with either, my question is:.

what is the relationship between evolution and atheism?.

i'd love to hear from anyone and everyone, and also from any perspective.. without limiting the conversation in any way, i would of course also appreciate comments that are simple, clear, direct and correct (as i don't have the capacity to do a phd in evolution or atheism)..

ttdtt

Fernando - please go to Wikipedia :)

41

Disfellowshipped for celebrating Xmas?

by Theburstbubble in

i could really do with some advice on what's acceptable when you leave.

we have left of our own accord about 6 months ago.

we didn't celebrate xmas this year but have just celebrated my daughters birthday.. a friend of mine who is still a witness told me that an elder had approached her and asked if we had celebrated xmas and that if we did it was a df offence as is classed as apostasy!

ttdtt

As an X-Elder - I agree with Tailspin - it depends on how big a bug your elders have up their collective ass.

Also if family tells, how small your territory is, if you were in a prominent or long time family. In reality the more years away the safer. Just do what you want to do as Low Key as possible.

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LOOK! Something new and shiny!

by stuckinarut2 in

isn't it amazing just how easily distracted the average witness is?.

with the flood of stuff being produced and uploaded on the website, from embarrassing corny videos and songs, to music for kids, to cartoons etc, the average witness has no time to actually stop and think about the actual doctrines or facts about the organisation.

nor the past, nor the scandals being exposed by real news outlets and media.

ttdtt

stuckinarut2

You are right - its all about distraction and keeping people so so busy now. Anything to keep them from having time to process the bullshit and contradictory messages they send out all the time.

In fact - I don't think there are 5% of JWs who could even explain the current beliefs accurately.

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Does anyone think Jehovah is protecting the org. despite all the talk about THE ARC ?

by tor1500 in

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i've been thinking this for a while.

even before the arc scandal.

it seems no matter what, the org.

ttdtt

So instead of god using his super powers to makes sure children are NOT raped by elders and ministerial servants, he uses his universe creating power to make sure the authorities cannot take action against sex criminals so they can stay safe in the loving arms of the org?

That is pretty convoluted thinking.

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Rejecting something due to unscriptural or pagan origins.....?

by stuckinarut2 in

so witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".

it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.

after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?

ttdtt

There could be nothing more natural than a parent wanting to acknowledge the anniversary of their child's birth.

Unlike some other celebrations, birthdays are a no brainer!!! It is stupid to use the 2 events in the bible that had bad things happen at a birthday to be a guide. It does not hold up.

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Good NYT article on gravitational waves discovery

by done4good in

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friends

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/science/ligo-gravitational-waves-black-holes-einstein.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=homepage&clicksource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region®ion=top-news&wt.nav=top-news&_r=0.

probably the biggest find since the higgs.. d4g.

ttdtt

Those aren't gravitational waves! It's just god farting!

126

Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

ttdtt

I think one of the funny parts of his chart is that it shows the time from today to the Great Tribulation about equal to all the time where you see the "anointed" in the pink strips. Then they wondered why people would think the End wasn't coming next Tuesday.

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Where do I start telling a psychologist about the mental trauma I feel as a fading jw?

by Simple Minds in

i am on a pension, so i could not afford to pay for a psychologist, but my good doctor referred me to a free clinic for people on a low income, for my anxiety and depression, so i have finally got my first appointment with a psychologist since i started my fade, so where do i start trying to explain the mental trauma i feel as a fading jw?

i would appreciate your advice.

simple .

ttdtt

Just know that so many of us have been there or are still right there in your same shoes.