dozy - I think back at the stupid things I backed up in talks. All us exElders have done that.
I remember when is was still under the spell, I knew enough that the flood could not be caused by rain. I found all kinds of research done by the Air Force on atmospheric studies. It had very specific info on how much water was in the air, how much could the atmosphere possibly hold... I did research on the atmosphere in general, and had a long debate with another elder that the waters had to come from underground (stupid as well - but I thought it was more likely).
All his arguments about the Canopy (never mentioned or implied in the bible) and rain, were so easily dismissed but to no avail.
The Spell is Strong!