Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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Watchtower LOSES copyright court case - humiliated!

by BoogerMan in

the org has been exposed for abusing dmca laws to hunt down and punish anonymous faders/jw's.. https://pubcit.typepad.com/clpblog/2022/05/watch-tower-drops-its-effort-to-identify-a-dissident-blogger-based-on-spurious-copyright-claims.html.

if you talk to a jw, tell them how wisely the "faithful slave is looking after the masters belongings.

" (matt.

dropoffyourkeylee

During the hearing, Watch Tower’s counsel made the outrageous statement that Watch Tower’s litigation strategies were confined by a lack of “significant funds,” and that its approach to the litigation was guided by “significant economic motivations." (bottom of page 18 of the transcript). Because Watch Tower’s 990T forms are publicly available as required by law, it is a matter of public knowledge that Watch Tower has more than a billion dollars in assets. Watch Tower is fortunate that it never made this representation about limited resources in a signed document.

An interesting read, the source appears to be a Consumer Advocate blog. The wording is a bit slanted in favor of McFree, but seems factual.

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1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

by joey jojo in

theres a couple of threads re: 1914 on the board right now and it got me thinking.. the jw doctrine of the 1914 generation is a key doctrine , yet it is probably the number one reason most have left over the decades.. 1975- within one generation.. 1995 - new understanding of the word generation.. 2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.. 2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring david splane.. its obvious the org is changing the goalposts and constantly trying to squeeze as much time as they can before they have to abandon this altogether.

or will they come up with something new?.

does anyone else think this ever changing doctrine is responsible for the biggest loss of members?.

dropoffyourkeylee

I say that virtually nobody actually believes the overlapping generation thing. They may say they do, but no, it makes no sense to anyone.

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I Found Some Extremely Rare Rutherford Recordings

by Nosferatu in

jw
friends

i was blown away when i found these watchtower records with rutherford on them.

these aren't the ones that were used door to door.

these are 16 inch records that were sent to radio stations to broadcast rutherford over the airwaves.

dropoffyourkeylee

Back in the days when there was no TV, and Radio was The source of comedy, drama, and news, Rutherford was somewhat well known across the country (US) based on the radio speeches. He had a rivalry and mutual hatred for Father Coughlin. They were divisive times through the depression leading up to WW2.

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Oct 8 1966 Awake! PDF-- pushes 1975 date

by cabasilas in

details about how to download the october 8, 1966 awake!

magazine pdf will appear at the end of this post.

background.

dropoffyourkeylee

I’m pretty sure the awkward ‘Life Everlasting’ title is directly from a NWT wording of a Bible verse. The NWT was so badly worded that it often made no sense.

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Does Society Receive State Funding in Norway?

by Band on the Run in

i periodically check the talk page of the jw wikipedia page.

when i entered the search terms, i noticed jw in norway, which aroused my curiosity.

according to the article on religion in norway, norway funds most religious groups.

dropoffyourkeylee

I just recently learned about this in Norway. Apparently all religions, including JWs, historically have received funding from the government. Just this year, though, the JWs lost that funding and are appealing the decision, as DJW has referenced. I watched a video about it that had been discussed on this site a couple of months ago.

Edited to add: I didn't notice that this thread is 10 years old and DJW was adding the update.

Here is a video interview related to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5PbN9xDO7I

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I Found Some Extremely Rare Rutherford Recordings

by Nosferatu in

jw
friends

i was blown away when i found these watchtower records with rutherford on them.

these aren't the ones that were used door to door.

these are 16 inch records that were sent to radio stations to broadcast rutherford over the airwaves.

dropoffyourkeylee

I'd like to hear one, just to get an idea of what they were saying back then.

When I was a kid in the '70s, there were some recordings (not Rutherford) that the WT produced that were played on the radio. They were short conversations between two individuals, one asking questions about soul, hellfire, etc with simplistic answers and then some type of contact information. I'm not sure when that stopped, but it must have been '71 or '72 that I remember.

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JeffT's Mystery Novel

by dropoffyourkeylee in

jw
friends

jefft, a frequent poster here, asked me to review his recent book published in 2021:.

--- armageddon's disciples, when prophecy fails --- by jeff thomas.

i found it very interesting and well worth the time to read.

dropoffyourkeylee

JeffT, a frequent poster here, asked me to review his recent book published in 2021:

--- Armageddon's Disciples, When Prophecy Fails --- by Jeff Thomas

I found it very interesting and well worth the time to read. I was the first reader to leave a review on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Armageddons-Disciples-When-Prophecy-Fails/dp/B09HG4W38G/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

The paperback is $13.95, but there is a Kindle version if you are into that.

At its most basic level it is a murder mystery, a whodunit with multiple possible culprits, solved by a tenacious police investigator. What comes as a bit of a surprise is that it is based on a high-control religious group with cultlike characteristics which will make any JW blush... just a bit too close for comfort. Jeff is careful to keep it in the world of fiction, but the point becomes clear as the tale progresses. Escapees from other, non-JW cultish groups will also find it insightful.

I received no compensation other than an evaluation copy of the book in paperback.

Viewers may recall that Jeff put out a call for readers and reviewers a few weeks ago on this site:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6263666872680448/offer-exchange-some-help

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I Found Some Extremely Rare Rutherford Recordings

by Nosferatu in

jw
friends

i was blown away when i found these watchtower records with rutherford on them.

these aren't the ones that were used door to door.

these are 16 inch records that were sent to radio stations to broadcast rutherford over the airwaves.

dropoffyourkeylee

Lol, Columbia sounds like they wanted to have no part of it. It says ‘this record was pressed but not recorded by Columbia phonograph’.

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

dropoffyourkeylee

Don't reenforce the belief that the WTS is in control

This is why I don’t believe in writing a disassociation letter. The WT has no right to ask for one, and I have no obligation to write one. Screw them.

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

dropoffyourkeylee

My only suggestion is that it be mobile friendly. If it were possible to have a phone app with an easy to navigate interface it would go over well.