I knew a couple who had 'pioneered' in the 30's. I'm not sure when the term pioneer came in, as they were called colporters at one time. These two traveled thru Kentucky mostly. They were allowed to keep some of the money from the literature sale, so in some sense they were book salesmen besides preaching. They eventually had a son and settled down, but when I knew them in the 70's and 80's they always spoke fondly of that time in their lives. One of them was anointed and the other was not, which always struck me as awkward.
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Pioneers during the 1920s/1930s and earlier
by A question in-what exactly was their standard of living?
could they afford some nice things sometimes?.
-how much did they socialize with other witnesses, either those serving in other areas or those in their assignment, outside of meetings and service?
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Was the New World Bible Translation Committee pressed for time?
by I_love_Jeff in....when they did not include a translation of the hebrew scriptures in your special kingdom interlinear bible?
perhaps it is easier to manipulate the new testament to fit with their twisted jw teachings?.
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My two cents worth
Benjamin Wilson's Diaglott had been part of the Bible Students references since the Russell days, and the Kingdom Interlinear is presented in a very similar way, almost an identical format as the Diaglott. My guess is that Fred Franz produced the Kingdom Interlinear pretty much on his own as he worked on the NT of the NWT. The OT, though was a different matter. The Bible Students did not ever have a Hebrew interlinear. In fact there are not a lot of them out there. I have one, (Jay Green ed.) and honestly it is not really helpful to a non-Hebrew reading student. It reads from right to left for one thing, and is really difficult to follow.
I concur that the possibility of the WT of producing a Hebrew interlinear is virtually zero.
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Former Longtime Elder : Contributions
by James Jackson infor a year now, i have been handling the accounts.
we have 6 elders and 7 ms, and none of them ( i am not serving), want to do the accounts, so they asked me to do it.
here is what i have noticed.. 4 elderly sisters cover the whole congregation in donations monthly!
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Where I am, Midwest US, semi-rural area, abt 120 publishers, there are tfour separate donation boxes. Each month they post on the board the finance report.
local funds donated: 2000-2200 monthly
world wide work: 400-500 monthly
SW Ohio assembly hall building project: 400 monthly
KH building fund worldwide: 100 monthly
They frequently have to make an announcement near the end of a month that there is a need for donations, as it is difficult for this congregation to come up with 2800-3200 each month. Yet somehow they do.
The SW Ohio Assembly hall project is becoming a joke. They announced the plans 2 years ago to sell Indianapolis Indiana and London Ohio assembly halls and build a new and better one in Cincinnati, Ohio area, and the need to collect about 8 million dollars. To date, neither of the old buildings is sold and they haven't even purchased the property yet for the new hall. Yet they continue to collect the money. I for one am starting to wonder what the WT is doing with the money.
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Watchtower REMOVES "Trinity" Booklet---ONLINE! Video
by BlindersOff1 inanother great catch by "the snarky apologist" on youtube......................................................i'm looking for this pdf can anyone give me a link.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hihh1_uc9s4.
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in WT doublespeak, 'available to congregations' simply means that they have it in stock. If you request it, it is there. The WT society has an overbearing need to get rid of whatever it has in storage. The fools in charge don't care if it is the truth or not. They just want to get rid of their inventory, as any business would want to do. Please, God, if you are reading this, send a bolt of lightning and destroy the WT society, Please???
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2013 Baptisms @ U.S. District Conventions Reports?
by Gayle inanyone getting/hearing how baptism numbers are this summer @ conventions?
in previous years, reports showed less baptisms per attendance numbers.
overall, annual 2012 service report showed for u.s. reduction in baptisms..
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Dayton Ohio, 8/3/2013
41 Baptised out of 7100 Attendance
0.58%
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Kidnaper of 3 Cleveland women - his mom a JW
by Gayle inhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/castro-brothers-spend-night-jail-article-1.1338131#ixzz2sjzrxozd.
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Has anyone been able to confirm or not whether Ariel Castro was ever associated with the Witnesses? I am still expecting to hear that he was associated at 'one time, perhaps as a youth.
What do we know for sure, based on news reports?
1 Ariel Castro's mother is a Jehovah's Witness in Cleveland.
2 Castro visited his mother frequently and even took the young daughter to visit her where she called her 'grandma'.
3 Castro and his brother Onil had been to dinner at their mom's house on the day that they were picked up by the police.
4 Michele Knight testified in court yesterday that Castro was a hypocrite because he would 'go to church on Sunday and then come home and torture us'.
While there is nothing conclusive yet, it is very suggestive that he was aware of WT beliefs at least, and probably has been to the KH. Perhaps even recently if Michele's statements on his going to church are correct. (Who knows if what he told her was true or not... he is a pathological liar). All in all, I for one and waiting for the shoe to drop when we find out for sure.
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Another new book: Jehovah's Witnesses - AN EXPOSE, written by a former elder and retired veteran United Airlines pilot
by AndersonsInfo ina comprehensive new book:.
"the good... the bad... the deceptive.... and worse!
an expose".
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There is no conflict in these numbers. He states he was with Unitel until 1991, but he has 50 years flying experience. Most airline pilots learned to fly well before they are hired with an airline, and continue to fly for many years afterwards, either professionally or in general aviation. Many of them will be instructors and flight examiners. So the author, if he first learned to fly in 1961 at age 20 or so, would now be about 74 years old. It is not uncommon at all for a 70+ to still have his medical and license and be active in aviation.
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New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation
by AndersonsInfo inmedia alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .
civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .
childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .
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I wonder if the fact that Lorain is near Cleveland could draw additional attention to the case. There have been a number of articles recently about Cleveland and the recent kidnappings and murders. And remember that Ariel Castro's mom is a JW in Cleveland. I still think it likely, if we ever get the details, that Castro had been to the Kingdom Hall in either Cleveland or Reading PA when he was young.
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Rutherford's Paradise - Film Footage of Beth Sarim
by RayPublisher ini just added this to my youtube channel, jwstruggle.
i know that we have some resident authorities on the history around jf rutherford and i am anxious to see what they make of it.
(leolaia i'm talking to you lol!).
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Very interesting footage. Thanks for posting it, it's a shame the audio is missing.
My take:
Part of the video is casual (the parts of Rutherford drinking, apparently a little loopy, clowning around). Other parts appear more staged, and even professional enough to have been intended as a propoganda film (bounteous harvest, waving flowers, Rutherford working the fields like a 19th century farmer) Even in 1939 many farmers were using tractors, and they obviously had trucks, bulldozers, etc at the building of Beth Sarim. The footage of him farming must be staged for some reason; I really doubt he ever did farming like that in real life. So I would conclude that the original (for that portion of the video) was accompanied by narration with the typical WT jargon about the Earth's harvest in New World, etc. Nevertheless, an invaluable contribution to our perception of Rutherford the man.... Thanks.
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Full 2013 Conti and Simons interview now available on YouTube
by cedars inhi folks.
as some of you may remember, 7 months ago i posted a thread announcing a special interview with candace conti and rick simons for which the answers were to be submitted by jwn posters.. here is the original thread.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/243087/1/calling-all-posters-what-are-your-questions-for-candace-conti-rick-simons-and-kelly-kraetsch.
the resulting interview was filmed on 10th february 2013 in oakland, california, and the first two videos of the interview were released in march.. i've finally had the opportunity to sit down and put the remaining two videos together, and these have been uploaded to youtube today.. we now have all four interview videos on youtube as follows.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhvfefpig4a.
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Thanks Cedar for posting these videos. I just spent the last hour watching them. Thank you Rick and Conti, if you view these responses..... sorry, it is emotional. You two are great inspiration to all who have been abused in one way or another by the Watchtower or any other organization that has children entrusted to its care.