if i was a jw, and covid put and end to the door to door work for two years, and kingdom halls closed, it would get me to re-visit and think about the stupidity of the overlapping generation, and how they extended the deadline for armageddon to 2072.
(1992 franz death +80 more years).
if i was 20 years of age, plus another 80 = 100 years of age for the system to end.
Take Ken Cook;
Graduates HS 1980 (I think, per his WT introduction), call him 17.
Arrives at Bethel 1982
Franz dies 1992; he's now 29 (Somewhere in those intervening 10 years he starts partaking)
2022 is only a few mos away; He's now 59.
2032; He's now 69, and staring down death. This will be time to come up with a new explanation.
Could he live to 99, i guess so- but, is that relevant
a couple of threads over on reddit that there is a letter to elders on restarting meetings.
i find this hard to believe and have not seen anything on this from our trusty sources on this site.
can anyone confirm?.
I dont have a problem going back. I'm not looking forward to it, but as has been said, everybody else is already doing there business.
My problem will be an overly cautious, stratifying rules that may be imposed; vaccinations, masks, segregation, etc.
it's seems that even the revised edition of the book revelation: it's grand climax a hand was wrong again.. in the 2019 agm david splane "clarified our understanding of the prophecy recorded in joel 2".
clarified?
you mean he done a 180 reversal.. from revelation: it's grand climax a hand page 143, para.
this week's wt study: "dont stir up competition" !
wt leaders and reigning elders have won the often dirty rise to compete for the top.
(no special education required as in bbtg), they now admonish the rank and file: do not rock the boat, do not stir up more competition.
Concurrence;
I am of the conclusion that these parts should be exclusively applied to Elders / COs and others with power. These are the people who's nose get out of joint when someone makes an innocuous decision that they don't agree with. How many times have they said "well, someone might be stumbled" Who? Who is stumbled?
I don't see too many R&F ripping each other for mundane decisions. An how about those examples; someone's a better cook than me?!?!
When did any reasonable person conclude that the "per diem" that bethelites receive is intended for contributions back to the organization? Stupifying.
now, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
Per current JW doctrine, we've been living in "the last days" for 107 years now. There's maybe a few hundred people on earth who were alive then, but no one would be able to recount clearly their own personal memories from 1914. 1914 is completely, entirely, absolutely a "history book" date - no one alive can recount their own "1914 experiences"
Irrespective of what dates, JW started believing what- My family has been part of this organization for 140 years. As far as i am concerned- these are all "last days" and to the point, it should NOT last that long.
in the latest jw broadcast, anthony morris the turd gives a talk about donations.
to camouflage this, he starts and ends the talk by saying that isn't actually what he's doing.
first he starts with the usual disclaimer, 'wt has never begged for money like christendom and we never will', you know the drill.
Wasn’t there also a letter a while back saying that JWs shouldn’t help other JWs out financially because if they really need help then the congregation will help them. Which in practice never happens
It was a mid-week meeting part. It basically said give to the WW Work, we know how best to use it. There is no need to give to a Go-Fund-Me or similar. You can't be sure that's real. The usual rhetoric.
i thought jiles grey response to this question was interesting:.
"i think that it demonstrates just how ineffective the jehovah’s witnesses’ door to door evangelising is.. in 2019 there were 303,866 people baptised.
this was during a year when the preaching work was in full swing.. in 2020 there were 241,994 people baptised.
1996 to 2000 growth- This includes its own scare factor. End was supposed to be before the "end of this century". It may not have been 1975 but "end times" could have been a factor in peoples decision making
just saw the following you tube video.
it’s 3 hours long, but thoroughly interesting.
if you want to save yourself 3 hours, basically the active mormon church is about 3 million.
JWs clearly indicate that baptism is full fledged membership. Peak publishers include many who are not members, may never fully become members. I would posit that actual JW membership is 8-10% lower than the 8million mark
jehovah's witnesses used to state other christian denominations go to war and in fact that their religious leaders bless such wars.
they see this as one reason why all other christian denominations are not true christians since they kill one another at war and therefore they don't love one another as stated by jesus in john 13: 34,35.. for example when a roman catholic go to war, he/she is bound to kill a fellow roman catholic in the cause of the war.
therefore roman catholic can't be true christians since its member don't love one another and kill one another at war and as such god cannot be in support of such wars where his worshippers kill one another.. the question that comes for consideration is, has jehovah ever supported wars between his own worshippers?.
The batteries mustve been dead in the Urim and the Thummin
It couldve been divined in an Achan-like way...
