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  I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?

  by Greybeard in

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  what if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?

  when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.

  there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkumk-7luxg&feature=related
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  I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
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  what if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?

  when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.

  there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.

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  Are you still going to the meetings Dudu? Thats a funny name by the way... Dudu as in Doo Doo right or wrong?
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  I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?

  when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.

  there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.

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  @ designs: I am so sorry to hear about your father, I haven't the words...

  @ Nathan: Thanks, thats funny!

  @Duda: "the last new light about the feet and toes of the image ..... " WHAT NEW LIGHT??? I laughed at that assembly. What a joke! It had to be a HUGE let down for many. It was nothing but a bunch of hype, like as if they came up with something real BIG. Did you cover the town passing out those invitations at every door to people who couldn't care less about traveling half way across the country to here such nonsense?

  @ Shop: Thank you, you are right, I really do need to live in the NOW. It isn't easy for me at times. I need to learn how. I think it takes time. I am open to advice and whatever I learn, I will share.

  @ El Nunya: Very true, sad but true... There are many caught in this trap that can't see a way out. My belief is Christ himself will free them when he brings Babylon down. I hope it happens sooner... I hope they crumble.
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  I must admit, I sometimes wonder, what IF?

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what if the watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding?

  when they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, i knew something was wrong.

  there are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with genesis 6:3, "after that jehovah said: my spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh.

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  What if the Watchtower stuck to their guns and didn't change the "generation" understanding? When they came up with this totally ridiculous "overlapping generation" concept, I knew something was wrong. There are people still alive who lived in 1914 today, they could have stuck to their guns or went with Genesis 6:3, "After that Jehovah said: “My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.” But NO, The "new light" tells us Christ was talking about generations that overlap! How crazy is that?

  Another thing I wonder about is the blood issue. I would have went to the mat on that one. I had a close friend who did and his wife died. I don't know if a blood transfusion would have saved her life but I can't help but wonder. My question is, what if the GB would have stuck with their guns on this issue? When they allowed "blood fractions" I was at a total loss like many of you. How many have died because of this I wondered. How could this be directed by Holy Spirit? I went along with it anyway at the time. If it was a "conscience matter" I didn't need to think about it for more than a nano second. I checked it off as ok.

  These issues had bothered me for a while but still, I felt the Watchtower was Gods "channel of communication." It wasn't until I was disfellowshipped and wrongly so in my opinion, that I looked online for answers. With these two huge doubts already on my mind, I was able to see the rest of the information and break free. Thank you jwfacts.com for sticking strictly to the facts. I applaud you! Thank you Ray Franz for your loving honesty and commitment to truth. Thank you freeminds.com! Thanks to everyone else who presented the facts in a loving non bashing manner that I could digest as a questioning Jehovah's Witness. This is a torch my friends and I at jwstruggle.com are trying to carry on if at all possible. We try hard not to offend the truth seeking JW... much of the time, that isn't easy.

  What I still wonder is what if the Watchtower didn't make these huge blunders on the generation and the blood issue? Would I have been held "Captive To A Concept until the Genesis 6:3 / 120 year generation passed on? I thank God these false prophets proved what they really are by not "sticking to their guns" thus making a way out for themselves.

  If the GB had faith the size of a mustard grain, they wouldn't have came up with the never ending "overlapping generation" cop out or changed their stand on blood. Were these two changes a huge part of your enlightenment regarding this organization like they were to me? Do you ever wonder what if they wouldn't have changed? I was so hardcore, I admit, I might not have woken up. I know that is sad but it is true. Thank God for the internet and all of you who help us to see the real truth behind this organization!

  Your brother in Christ,

  Greybeard
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  January 2012 WT Study edition on PDF pulled from JW.org website

  by bnybyt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt study edition is getting a facelift for the new year.. the january issue had been posted on jw.org but.... the boes hadn't received notice by letter of such a change.. the wts likes to play up every opportunity to have a new release.. this time the jw.org techies jumped the gun and went on to post.

  the issues for download according to their established schedule.. unfortunately, they went ahead of the fds/gb who too late .

  realized the cat was out of the bag, sort of saying.. well, it got pulled off the website, for now at least.. what's so secretive about it?.

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  I think us "apostates" are more anxious to read the new publications than the rank and file! LOL
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  Why can't I just have one day with out seeing a JW ......seriously

  by troubled mind in

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  2. bible

  today i went early to my dad's house to help my disabled sister with medical paperwork .

  at 10am the cleaning lady shows up .

  she was a jw recruit of my mom's yrs ago, and use to be like a sister to us a really long time ago .

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  Teary Oberon is the biggest hypocrite on this form! Pay no attention to what this JW apologist has to say. He doesn't obey the organization he believes in. He makes snide remarks all over the place. He has a blog full propaganda to support the Watchtower org. He is a troll.
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  The Faithful and Discreet Slave - A JW Myth

  by 00DAD in

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  probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.

  regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .

  "we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

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  So the question remains, "who really is the faithful and discrete slave?"

  The WT says it is all the anointed but all of the anointed do not provide "food at the proper time".

  The entire FDS teaching of the WT is a complete joke. This was a parable not a prophecy!
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  My career as a budding alcoholic is over

  by Qcmbr in

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  i've had a goal to drink my first alcohol this year and i decided that i would take the plunge while in my hotel.

  i chose a tiny bottle of jacob's creek and retired to my room.. i had two sips and had to stop.

  seriously vile.

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  @ Qcmber,

  Their is nothing wrong with drinking alcohol. The Bible says "wine makes the heart rejoice". It also says, "drunkards will not inherit the Kingdom of God." Moderation is the key. I always had a problem with moderation so I became addicted to alcohol and I can't drink anymore. I had a very high tolerance. I had way to much fun drinking. It also brought me a lot of heart ache and pain in the latter days of my drinking "career".

  If you want to feel the effect but don't like the taste of alcohol, order a Long Island Ice Tea and that will do the trick. They are smooth and easy to drink. If made right, you won't need another drink to feel the effect.

  Some will probably condemn me for telling you this after what I have been through. I still don't see anything wrong with it as long as you can control it. Jesus Christ's first miracle was turning water into wine.

  There are many bad things that can happen if you over drink. you can loose control and do things you never would have done sober. some have woken up in jail only to discover they have killed a family in a car crash or maybe their friends. The prisons are full of alcohol related crimes.

  Just because many become sexaholics and commit sex crimes does not make sex wrong. Sex is a gift from God and so is alcohol. Just don't over do it.

  That's my 2cents
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  Why do we care?

  by fade_away in

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  ok this thread might get my ass kicked by some of you in here, but don't take it the wrong way...i'm just curious, why do we care so much about the wt calling us "mentally diseased"?

  i mean haven't we said far worse things about the wt and gb in this forum?

  (i include myself)...i know many of us got all bent out of shape because of those two words they used on us and some of us are trying to get the law on our side, but if we could file lawsuits against them, then i'm sure they can just as easily get their money back by accusing us of "hate speech" and having this website shut down.

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  @ Watson

  It's for real. I got it straight out of the WT Library. Check out this article written on it:

  http://www.jwstruggle.com/2011/09/i-have-a-question-for-the-watchtower-organization/
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  Why do we care?

  by fade_away in

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  2. friends

  ok this thread might get my ass kicked by some of you in here, but don't take it the wrong way...i'm just curious, why do we care so much about the wt calling us "mentally diseased"?

  i mean haven't we said far worse things about the wt and gb in this forum?

  (i include myself)...i know many of us got all bent out of shape because of those two words they used on us and some of us are trying to get the law on our side, but if we could file lawsuits against them, then i'm sure they can just as easily get their money back by accusing us of "hate speech" and having this website shut down.

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  WARNING: All who "stroke the genitals of their fretful babies" Will serve time in prison for child molestation!

  *** w73 9/15 p. 568 Breaking Free of Self-Abuse—Why? How? ***

  “Did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers who stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become masturbators later on? Boys and girls may start to play with their private parts during puberty and, not receiving any counsel against this, the first thing they know they are “hooked” on the habit.”

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  WARNING: Contrary to what this publication claims, it has been proven that this magazine is not directed by Holy Spirit.