to find agency one would have to find that elders are employees of the Watchtower Society. I think that would be hard to sustain on appeal.
Posts by vienne
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28JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal
by jwleaks inyep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.
i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.
to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.
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JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal
by jwleaks inyep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.
i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.
to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.
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vienne
Listener,
Some of our pasture is on floodplain and about 20 feet next to the river is underwater as Cascade Mountain runoff fills the river. That affects value.
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JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal
by jwleaks inyep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.
i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.
to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.
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vienne
Unless it's a Federal Court, no California court has jurisdiction in New York. I do not see how selling property is a scandal. Maybe I'm just dense, but that seems like a reach.
My husband and I own a small farm. We bought the property at ten dollars an acre about twenty years ago. Recent sales of similar property suggest it would sell for nearly 100 dollars an acre. Do I 'sin' if I now sell off the farm and take the profit? Is that a scandal? If it isn't a scandal for me to do so, how is it one for the Watchtower to do so?
Is it a 'sin' for me to ignore a California court with no jurisdiction in Washington State, where I live? That issue arose when my dad's mother died. Our lawyer simply reminded the State of California that they had no enforcement power over a Washington citizen.
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How to sue the WT over shunning policy. It CAN happen!
by Bad_Wolf inthis is a very good document from a law school exploring religious freedom vs an individuals right to religious freedom without blackmail, pressure, etc, and also explores why certain lawsuits did not win and what it would take to win them.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=3827&context=penn_law_review.
a person born in, and whose parents or family pressured to shun because they simply left the religion, who has evidence of damages, etc, would likely have a good case if they find a good lawyer.
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I would hate to have a court tell me that I must associate with or allow into my house someone I detest. Isn't banning 'shunning' the same thing? Individuals and groups have a right to choose their associates. Anger at being shunned does not erase that right.
In America, the right to form associations is a constitutional right. Implicit in that right is the right to forego association with others.
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Old Goat
by vienne insome of you may remember old goat who used to post here.
he died last night in his sleep.
he was 92 years old.
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He only added to our project by asking pertinent questions and adding insights drawn from his long experience within the Watchtower. He started attending meetings in the mid-1940s and was baptized in 1948. He served in various capacities and 'knew stuff.' I will miss him.
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Old Goat
by vienne insome of you may remember old goat who used to post here.
he died last night in his sleep.
he was 92 years old.
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Some of you may remember Old Goat who used to post here. He died last night in his sleep. He was 92 years old. And he was my friend. Until he was unable, we used to meet at a Starbucks and chat. He was a retired professor of history, tall but underweight. A gentleman.
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My intro essay revisited
by vienne inhi everyone [even the person who always marks my posts thumbs down - snicker] i've added to and revised my introductory essay for separate identity volume two.
please read it and give me your thoughts.. thanks,.
rachael.
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vienne
Hi everyone [even the person who always marks my posts thumbs down - snicker] I've added to and revised my introductory essay for Separate Identity volume two. Please read it and give me your thoughts.
Thanks,
Rachael
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The Society is Blocking Research On their Web Site
by new boy init seems, you can not research many of the older publications on society's web site anymore.
for the obvious reasons, that they don't want people to go back and read about all the false prophecies, changing guide lines (new light that became old light that became new light once again) and the just plain stupid stuff they have said over the years.
i not quit sure what publications they have blocked.
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Zeb, do you have the actual reference for that? Was it a WT letter? Which date? Can you post it?
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WT Study October 2018....spinning ''layoffs'' into ''reassigning'' ex-Bethelites ''to the field''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwt study october 2018. maintain inner peace despite changing circumstances.
lloyd and alexandra learn that they have been reassigned to the field, they at first felt sad.
after all, they had been serving at bethel for over 25 years.
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sending someone who's been there for 25 years and is now aged into a world with which they have lost contact is a disreputable act no matter how you phrase it.
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Printed vs Produced
by Rattigan350 inin the january 1, 2015 watchtower it says printing each issue 52,946,000 in 228 languages semimonthly.
in that 2016 #1 issue watchtower it says produced each issue 58,987,000 in 254 languages monthly.
what is the difference between printed and produced?.
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vienne
no difference at all, as far as I can see ...