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Posts by vienne
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42My Most Memorable Circuit & District Overseers
by MillennialDawn ini would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.
david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.
just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.
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When did you see realise James Lloyd Evans was a wrongun?
by usualusername1 ini remember him on this site when he was called cedars and had jw survey.. straightaway i noticed he could not accept suggestions.. the time i knew he was dangerous was when his group aawa added people to their fb group without their permission and were outed.. he refused to close the fb page (whilst celebrating 1300 members joining in a few days).
one member complained and was subsequently disfellowshipped, which could easily have been avoided.. three week's after launching, the fb page was closed down.
from that moment i knew james lloyd evans was dangerous.. when did you realise he not good?.
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When I first came across his videos. Creepy.
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1961 1962 higher authorities
by Marcial inare there among you, dear friends, a specialist in american associations from around the 1950s -1970s and a little more?
to find out from what years in the usa the first subsidies were granted to religious congregations and other non-profit or charitable associations?
why this question is that i just thought that there is perhaps a link between doctrinal clarifications over the years and government innovations to support or subsidize these supposedly charitable religious organizations or certain qualified ngos?
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charity*
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1961 1962 higher authorities
by Marcial inare there among you, dear friends, a specialist in american associations from around the 1950s -1970s and a little more?
to find out from what years in the usa the first subsidies were granted to religious congregations and other non-profit or charitable associations?
why this question is that i just thought that there is perhaps a link between doctrinal clarifications over the years and government innovations to support or subsidize these supposedly charitable religious organizations or certain qualified ngos?
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vienne
In the United States Constitutional law prevents government subsidies to religions. The most a church can legally expect is property tax relief, or if incorporated as a cherty, some tax relief. Your theory is wrong..
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Is there evidence about Jaracz?
by Gorbatchov inread some reply's about jaracz being a child abuser.. is there any evidence about it?.
g..
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I expect there would be more than Watchtower hidden files. Letters from the offended family, for instance? Anyone know their name? Anyone contacted them? There must be a forum member who lives in Australia who could persue this.
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Is there evidence about Jaracz?
by Gorbatchov inread some reply's about jaracz being a child abuser.. is there any evidence about it?.
g..
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I can't see having any confidence in a youtube video. Where are the documents, no second or third, fourth hand claims?
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The King vs. J. J. Ross
by vienne ini just read this.
the author was one of mom's friends and an ethical writer.
i recommend this:.
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John Jacob Ross was a Canadian Baptist clergyman. Though he claimed degrees he did not earn, he was educated enough to produce several doctrinal booklets. He was born in 1870 and died in 1935. Russell filed a criminal libel complaint against him which went to trial in 1913. After the trial Ross published Some Facts and More Facts About the Self-styled Pastor Charles T. Russell. In it Ross quotes from the transcript, omitting a key word to so as to have Russell claim to know Biblical Greek. In fact, all Russell said is that he could recognize some of the Greek alphabet.
There is a long story here. The book I mentioned in my first post tells some of it. Schulz and de Vienne [my mother] told some of it in both volumes of Separate Identity. Ross's booklet is still quoted by polemicists without fact checking. This makes them look rather stupid, and it makes them complicit in a falsehood. The only writer that I know of who revised their work to present an accurate quotation is Walter Martin in the revised edition of Jehovah of the Watchtower. Martin's books have other flaws and his beliefs were outside evangelical Christianity, but he was an honest scholar if not always a careful scholar.
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My Most Memorable Circuit & District Overseers
by MillennialDawn ini would love to hear from anyone who may have encountered the following the traveling overseers:.
david wesley - an incredibly kind and humble man.
just the most down-to-earth co you'll ever find.
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vienne
I asked my grand uncle about the names on this list. He knew Manera and speaks highly of him. None of the others 'rang a bell' as far as his memory goes.
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The King vs. J. J. Ross
by vienne ini just read this.
the author was one of mom's friends and an ethical writer.
i recommend this:.
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vienne
"people who want to make money selling "truth" are not to be trusted."
So all the Church run and church affiliated Bible Book Stores are run by charlatans?
The Watch Tower lost money. This was demonstrated with the Brooklyn Eagle case. Again. Read the transcript.
Russell? Fruitcake. But dishonest? Not in the way you suggest.
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The King vs. J. J. Ross
by vienne ini just read this.
the author was one of mom's friends and an ethical writer.
i recommend this:.
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Buy the book I noted above. It contains what remains of the Ross transcript. Easy for you to do, and it's inexpensive. You can also find extracts from the transcript at truthhistory.blogspot.com
As far as Ross's ethics go, see footnote 236, pages 49-50 of Separate Identity, volume one: "Ross claimed at various times to have graduated from Woodstock College and McMaster University. While he attended both, he graduated from neither. An anonymous pamphlet published by members of the Vancouver Baptist Ministerial Association exposed Ross. (Statement of Facts Relative to J. J. Ross, D.D., Vancouver, B. C., 1926) See: John Byron Richards: Baptists in British Columbia: A Struggle to Maintain “Sectarianism,” Master’s Thesis, University of British Columbia, 1964, page 147."