"What Happened to reading the Watchtower and Awake as good as getting a college degree?"
The only people who believed that didn't have one.
Posts by vienne
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47FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!
by steve2 inwith the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!
magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!
magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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vienne
Lloyd is disgusting on so many levels. He is morally bereft. He is a bad father, a worse husband. He is vulgar. He lacks self-control not just sexually but in every other area of life. Those who stay with him find him a mirror of themselves. Like many narcissists, he believes he is much more intelligent that he really is. Worst of all, he is average, He hates being exposed for the average human he is because he wants to be so much more. He fails.
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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?
by Hellothere inpersonally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
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vienne
Lose in lower courts, even in a national supreme court and they'll appeal to the European Court, which is almost always sympathetic to Witnesses.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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vienne
"high dose of antibiotics". Yup, maybe. There is, however, no cure to stupidity.
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Have I Drifted Too Far?
by sinboi ini was shocked, really shocked.
what i am doing now is so acceptable to the friends around me.. my friends are all doing it.
it is so normal in the society,.
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vienne
I'm seriously considering reporting his gang-rape claim to the FBI.
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Have I Drifted Too Far?
by sinboi ini was shocked, really shocked.
what i am doing now is so acceptable to the friends around me.. my friends are all doing it.
it is so normal in the society,.
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vienne
Yes, he's a troll or he's a mental health case. I vote illiterate troll.
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Disfellowshiping only began in 1952!! Before this Witnesses were immoral!
by Witness 007 inmany witnesses lived together in sin or had many wives before 1952 during the rutherford era, this was frowned apoun but no one was disfellowshiped unless they did something major like critisize rutherford!
then in watch.
may 15 1944 and finally watch 1/3 1952, disfellowshiping was invented.
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vienne
No circuit overseers in the 1930s.
I interviewed an old-time Witness for Uncle B's research. She reported that in the mid-1940s, the "Company Servant" in Salinas, California, ran away with a 15 year old girl. But things like that do not mean they didn't expel from the congregation. As I understand it, because 'trials' were very public, many congregations were reluctant to tread that path. If you want to see what open congregation trials were like find the Golden Age report on Rutherford expelling the Canadian Branch Servant. I've forgotten the exact date, though I believe it was between 1935-1937.
The Watchtower in the 1920s-1930s had repeated warnings about behavior. One of the most interesting to me was a 1924 article on strong personal differences.
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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!
by Witness 007 inoften flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??
even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".
god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.
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vienne
"they used to show pictures of the "vestigial rear limbs" on such species as certain Boas to prove that this happened as they taught. It you teach it in your magazines"
Can you cite an example. I'd love to see that.
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Snakes had legs until Eden curse! Watchtower 1880 till 1974!!!
by Witness 007 inoften flicking through watchtower bound volumes i would see pictures of eden which shows the snake in the tree of knowledge with legs??
even the photo drama of creation shows a snake with legs.. watchtower 1964 p.352 "genisis 3;14 {snake}on your belly you will go and dust you shall eat...before god curse it the snake had legs, that elivated it above the ground...god transformed it's body so that it ceased to have legs and was able to move on it's belly.".
god's eternal purpose 1974 "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimized by satan.. forrest gump watchtower science is price-less!.
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Disfellowshiping only began in 1952!! Before this Witnesses were immoral!
by Witness 007 inmany witnesses lived together in sin or had many wives before 1952 during the rutherford era, this was frowned apoun but no one was disfellowshiped unless they did something major like critisize rutherford!
then in watch.
may 15 1944 and finally watch 1/3 1952, disfellowshiping was invented.
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vienne
Disfellowshipping as a Watch Tower practice extends back to Russell's day, though it has taken differing forms. Into the 1930s matters were handled by a public trial and congregation vote. This changed in the 1940s. Organizational Instructions for the Kingdom Publisher, 1945 edition says:
"If a brother sees a fellow publisher do that which is out of harmony with the Lord's organization and His instructions, he should not gossip among others; but he would do well to go to his brother and in a kind manner call his attention to his shortcomings. If an individual associated with a company persists in wrongdoing and does not act according to the Lord's Word and direction as becoming of Christians, then the representative members of the congregation who are the servants in the company, the mature ones or elders, can decide what shall be done with such person. (Deut. 21:18-21; Matt. 18:15-18) The Scriptural admonition is to have nothing to do with such an individual (Rom. 16:17; Titus 3:10) The elders would so advice the congregation (1 cor. 5:11-13) Later if genuine repentance is shown by the dismissed offender the elders may order that he be received back in their midst. - Prov. 17:10; 2 Cor. 2:6-11 7:8-12; 2 Thess. 3:14, 15."
H. H. Stroup's book should be used with care. It is full of errors and contrived material. See Schulz: Separate Identity, vol, 2 introduction where examples of Stroup's fakery are given.